Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P53pn-0007z7-Rk; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 14:53:38 -0700 Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15sf665196wwe.16 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 14:53:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=YGJdTzl9XJk9iEl+lkZRLKuZT+ErzP6kprby+bFqaso=; b=PLD/EnEowPUi+Jy92mFbUzXkSzbkc/8PhgTS2R2ySsk48SzLLyw/4GyOfKi/di2Ilb +jzyXiNqKWLqJPhd5yZn6AVBMmcjgBz0urRAZkbNUn+RrKO4fP5HNA23Q37dNk0C2J5j EdVPtnws6h5vXNzPHTEs85Z2ndg1xS7+IrahM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=kFmnB/1XK5o8OsC7dSvOD9Zq3oDyReixSkmZlsR8pxBUyZ8h4C8qg6vYMbaU3Zo5sm pPcQh7hJ8uEtgMJ/XCfOdC9zdjjR6PBTH42+o/eWFKeR76MmCkDh7tJryygFYq/L05sW p9gf2Jbpi7HJBqNZnjNCv3/+OmSYfv5NxfpLU= Received: by 10.216.237.132 with SMTP id y4mr468328weq.16.1286747603459; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 14:53:23 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.39.10 with SMTP id d10ls925956wbe.2.p; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 14:53:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.136.68 with SMTP id q4mr206934wbt.17.1286747602738; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 14:53:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.136.68 with SMTP id q4mr206933wbt.17.1286747602716; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 14:53:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f52.google.com (mail-ww0-f52.google.com [74.125.82.52]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id a37si2626830wba.3.2010.10.10.14.53.21; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 14:53:21 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.52 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.52; Received: by wwi18 with SMTP id 18so1578754wwi.33 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 14:53:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.72.213 with SMTP id n21mr5003153wbj.66.1286747601436; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 14:53:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.145.130 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 14:53:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 18:53:21 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] Re: {.i} and {ni'o}, continuation or new jufra From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.52 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1499 On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > It is my understanding that {.i} is "optional" at the beginning of a new > text. "Optional" in that context, means the same thing to me as elidable. For some (admittedly rare) texts you don't have the option of adding ".i" nor "ni'o" at the beginning. For example ".aionys." is a valid text, ".i .aionys." is not. "nai" is a valid text, ".i nai." is not. But I won't press this point because I would want both of those to be valid. In any case, the optionality of initial ".i" is a different thing from the elidable terminators. The elidable terminators in a sense can be said to be there even when not explicit, the optional ".i/ni'o" is not really there in the same sense. >> So you are willing to give up the useful property of texts of having a >> speaker and an audience, for the rare occasions when someone wants to >> complete someone else's sentences? > > I don't agree that those properties are "given up". Well, a text formed from a concatenated string of conversational texts is no longer a se cusku with a well defined cusku and a well defined te cusku. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list?hl=en.