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Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrot=
e:
>=20
>>2010/10/10 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>
>>
>>>On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>As far as I'm concerned, a conversation /is/ a text.
>>>
>>>You have said that, yes, but I have shown you examples of
>>>conversations, both from lojbab's lessons and fron CLL, that are not
>>>texts.
>>
>>By your definition.
>=20
>=20
> By the parser's definition. Who cares what you or I choose to call a
> "text" in an informal way. What matters is that both lojbab's lessons
> and CLL both give examples of conversations that do not parse as
> single whole entities.

And therefore according to the parser are invalid Lojban.

You are taking the fact that they do not parse as evidence that they are=20
  multiple texts.  But formally, if it doesn't parse, it is simply=20
incorrect, even if pieces of it are correct separately.

After all, the following is ungrammatical:

mi klama le zarci do klama

But if one arbitrarily breaks it into two texts either before or after=20
the "do", or before the "le", it is now grammatical.

But the parser won't break it into two texts.  To the parser, it is=20
simply ungrammatical.  The human inputter has to do a break-up,=20
according to informal rules.  One such informal rule is that a new=20
speaker is a new text.  But that is an informal rule of pragmatics, and=20
not part of the definition of Lojban.  The proposals, I think, are=20
proposals to override the informal considerations of pragmatics.  I=20
don't know if this is a good idea unless we codify the rules of Lojban=20
pragmatics.  But I'm willing to consider the possibility.

lojbab

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