Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P5jc0-00028q-DN; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 11:30:16 -0700 Received: by gyh3 with SMTP id 3sf1596496gyh.16 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 11:30:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:x-vr-score :x-authority-analysis:x-cm-score:message-id:date:from:user-agent :x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=a0xOoXoOi3YKf9wots6x9/aKbFmjMhT/JrSrYk6Id58=; b=Tv6aN1WSG2HW/xVlrQv+1moaIlILKnjnNLOrT83Mui26SWvfbi7khZRqO1jctrztBw y02QWIRiNdQaoYMfqco54DXdDD7YqESlfbFza/7OwrO6WvMxyk0BcJG5YjQUv+YjUGJv zkYiZLZl2X9rdcD44m9vEwwqVlFyMbzZehBh4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-vr-score:x-authority-analysis:x-cm-score :message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IBSn5EC5lSySE3Woe2KRo6fV0KmbKYvmkOH/sRcO7/kemWljRnlstGjl+ypZgn78Gt aUYhOtuKbFxxSXnGxDG9XR2fqvyiDiiiCHvCzg1NawwyU/Dd2ZbkNx86MV4biD0Sw1PS m4mScr4fvWlXyrsztLCoJaa7+RMgTDe9pWX+I= Received: by 10.101.25.15 with SMTP id c15mr1698anj.17.1286908194940; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 11:29:54 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.194.29 with SMTP id w29ls55308anp.1.p; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 11:29:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.254.9 with SMTP id b9mr3621288ani.31.1286907874854; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 11:24:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.254.9 with SMTP id b9mr3578203ani.31.1286907691967; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 11:21:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastrmmtao105.cox.net (eastrmmtao105.cox.net [68.230.240.47]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id n18si5771568ana.10.2010.10.12.11.21.31; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 11:21:31 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 68.230.240.47 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of lojbab@lojban.org) client-ip=68.230.240.47; Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmmtao105.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.00.01.00 201-2244-105-20090324) with ESMTP id <20101012182131.UOAV14030.eastrmmtao105.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 14:21:31 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([70.179.118.163]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id HuMW1f00P3Xcbvq02uMWAt; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 14:21:31 -0400 X-VR-Score: -100.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=Of5FRk7D4fcJlrWbzxPvWNsT1UhKEYt7m7ky24PLP4c= c=1 sm=1 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=7ls7RdmwX4RvLZNVULbZcg==:17 a=XYzIhgvqr_3TmAguJVoA:9 a=g_yNRH4nMhZdIwJx8oAA:7 a=0z4M6YfLUYoUVHhRHY1Cpa__JjgA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=7ls7RdmwX4RvLZNVULbZcg==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <4CB4A74F.9040003@lojban.org> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 14:22:07 -0400 From: Robert LeChevalier User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [bpfk] BPFK work References: <4CB2335F.7000606@lojban.org> <4CB253D0.1020806@lojban.org> <4CB3576C.2000009@lojban.org> <4CB48045.9050503@lojban.org> In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 68.230.240.47 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of lojbab@lojban.org) smtp.mail=lojbab@lojban.org Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 2163 Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > The Lojban formal grammar is (or "can be", depending on your attitude > to the PEG grammar) well defined. The particular parser > implementations of that grammar are not unique, there are all sorts of > different things you may want to do with an implementation, and there > is really no reason to pick one implementation over another. Different > uses will make use of different implementations, all based on the same > grammar. Yes and no. There can be only one correct output parse, however the=20 parser gets to it (allowing that formatting differences in the output=20 aren't different parses), or the language is not syntactically=20 unambiguous. If the language is defined to extend into multiple units=20 called "text", the boundaries between "text"s need to be unambiguous,=20 and only a parser that accurate reflects those boundaries is "correct". Right now, there are no formal rules governing multiple texts and their=20 possible interactions. Perhaps there should be, but I am inclined to=20 think we should wait till the BYFY finishes the simpler "single text"=20 problem we've been stuck on for years before making the job harder. In=20 such a case, discussing this problem at all right now is out of order. That being said, a new speaker may wish to explicitly append onto=20 another speaker's text. Such a problem seems to lie within the=20 "single-text" grammar, though other interpretations are probably=20 possible. If it is, then any specific method for doing so that is not=20 already part of the language should be documented, although it should be=20 considered a change if it is not currently part of the language (and=20 therefore put off until the current language is documented).=20 Experimental cmavo of course do not need to be considered by BYFY. lojbab --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= BPFK" group. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. 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