Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P60Ub-0002Ee-7e; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 05:31:43 -0700 Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15sf1531446wwe.16 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 05:31:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=vTj6iH9+fToZ7te3jZ8wlHE9TPHeIDzix5QwP5vVH2U=; b=qQIIGHnNmZUkjNfxGHNCmA5W7yCBlrCGVB75SyHm/BO7f3GvEl46uvxRI+bOaEBO+p PcqNNHiB1p9GZa7Nt48z3+bebe45enkWlkOXyDnURQwQ1GRkkj0aOr2so0rZsh8yoPWT m6JNSnSlEIAbllLGBxphX+82jltQIeiIos8nY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=nHqLAMZP8CDtS0MmUwVhb4rY0RLMRyjXYt9Aa7ZE8sIcD9BE+N13sCln/fsRMsw1sr k9rSlSaazXbpXPU1+ue/lHmEf+wc0CrTtgHXFihpV1y57NnXcSWRCk73S6shKFQ0Zkrn FzzIb5FZfnuqmmpqGbubfun8l2egcmIqtZLTw= Received: by 10.216.236.90 with SMTP id v68mr647534weq.7.1286973084208; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 05:31:24 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.168.134 with SMTP id u6ls362568wby.1.p; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 05:31:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.148.4 with SMTP id n4mr393952wbv.0.1286973083039; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 05:31:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.148.4 with SMTP id n4mr393951wbv.0.1286973082993; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 05:31:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f41.google.com (mail-ww0-f41.google.com [74.125.82.41]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id w33si2241602wbd.6.2010.10.13.05.31.21; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 05:31:21 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.41 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.41; Received: by wwd20 with SMTP id 20so283020wwd.2 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 05:31:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.142.75 with SMTP id p11mr8749899wbu.27.1286973081748; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 05:31:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.145.130 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 05:31:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <44223758279487280@unknownmsgid> References: <4CB2335F.7000606@lojban.org> <4CB253D0.1020806@lojban.org> <4CB3576C.2000009@lojban.org> <4CB48045.9050503@lojban.org> <4CB4A74F.9040003@lojban.org> <44223758279487280@unknownmsgid> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:31:21 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] BPFK work From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.41 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1242 On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Daniel Brockman wrote: > Of course, we need SOME way to wedge a conversation into a text. > Otherwise how can we talk about conversations? We can already talk about conversations (in the non-formal sense, a conversation as an event) with the current grammar. Talking about an instance of the proposed formal construct "conversation" is a different issue. Even if "lu...li'u" couldn't quote that construct, we could still talk about it with for example "lu ... li'u ce'o lu ... li'u ce'o lu ... li'u". But I will leave the specification of the proposal to the proponents. Personally, I think that the idea of the formal grammar as a generator of conversations, rather than as a generator of a speaker's speech, is too bizarre. (But then I also think that even the handling of paragraphing with the syntax is slightly bizarre, so ...) mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list?hl=en.