Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P6BYE-0001lZ-G2; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:20:09 -0700 Received: by gxk6 with SMTP id 6sf3122575gxk.16 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:20:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:mime-version:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=mOgZMvKHidYbwiD13HIFoSW13X/dQvc30LUCHoatMB4=; b=kJ8Y05qd4SR2aJWSZIw/ttRY+oOyAC3/omUJdFpPclhKJ8CfBSi7lX+Q+O2RAmqTOw WimIl+zO86MWrhzEDUvqU0n6G220ANSeekpwRuomxLHaSRlEqENaVPUv3sn3VMgyWJxJ 59MSO11cnZk8D939IQJg5SLmSSupp094LxZsg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=3tG+kDLLtsPq7H4cS3KiddjVJbY+GL7fRGn2kOclEO51cjz5kWi1OCzrpUjbTA9Cae 34J5RznE6G6mAWOxmDfjvpelssNgwZNZJ8BMQ4/Xbh51btPzRZfuN2KUiloF/ubDOTQC YVBZbcfXRYpOw1LLABfxQEYIHKMbW7yRlf6xQ= Received: by 10.90.32.2 with SMTP id f2mr191439agf.39.1287015594284; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:19:54 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.112.41 with SMTP id u41ls1074705ibp.1.p; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:19:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.79.82 with SMTP id o18mr3273218ibk.15.1287015593798; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:19:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.79.82 with SMTP id o18mr3273217ibk.15.1287015593732; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:19:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f176.google.com (mail-iw0-f176.google.com [209.85.214.176]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id bm7si6254232ibb.6.2010.10.13.17.19.52; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:19:52 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of oges007@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.176 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.176; Received: by mail-iw0-f176.google.com with SMTP id 3so7550835iwn.21 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:19:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.33.71 with SMTP id g7mr7608611ibd.54.1287015592512; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:19:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.37.9 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:19:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <3443a11a-dc47-4efe-8501-4bdd78333ccf@y32g2000prc.googlegroups.com> From: Ross Ogilvie Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 11:19:32 +1100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] Re: {.i} and {ni'o}, continuation or new jufra To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: oges007@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of oges007@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.176 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=oges007@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000325554d9a36534d049288abdf Content-Length: 7146 --000325554d9a36534d049288abdf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable However, if we can find a solution that works for all humans, then we have = a solution that works for all men. Hence, figuring out how this works for texts means we have figured out how it works for sentences. mi'e ros On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > 2010/10/13 Jorge Llamb=EDas > > On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Jonathan Jones >> wrote: >> > On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Daniel Brockman >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Yes, obviously the text reopening semantics can not be >> >> formalized in a grammar. >> >> >> >> Maybe forget about {fa'ei} until we figure {fa'ai} out. >> > >> > Maybe we should just forget about all of it since this is about >> continuing >> > sentences, not texts. la.alis. is a text. It is not /a/ jufra. >> >> A sentence is just one special kind of text, a very short one. >> > > .i.ienaicai pa jufra cu na mintu pa se casnu .a pa cukta .a pa te tavla > > It doesn't matter if a sentence is a text. A book is a text, a discussion > is a text, a web page is a text. All men are human, but not all humans ar= e > men. > > >> In any case, the same problems apply to a text in general or to a >> single sentence. >> >> mu'o mi'e xorxes >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "BPFK" group. >> To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list?hl=3Den. >> >> > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi luk. mi patfu > do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! 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However, if we can find a solution that works for all humans, then we = have a solution that works for all men.
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Hence, figuring out how this works for texts means we have figured out= how it works for sentences.
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mi'e ros
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Jonathan Jones = <eyeonus@gmail.co= m> wrote:
2010/10/13 Jorge Llamb=EDas &l= t;jjllambias@gmai= l.com>=20

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
&g= t; On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Daniel Brockman <daniel@brockman.se>
> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, obviously the text reopening seman= tics can not be
>> formalized in a grammar.
>>
>>= ; Maybe forget about {fa'ei} until we figure {fa'ai} out.
> > Maybe we should just forget about all of it since this is about contin= uing
> sentences, not texts. la.alis. is a text. It is not /a/ jufra.=

A sentence is just one special kind of text, a very short one= .

.i.ienaicai pa jufra cu na mintu pa se casnu .a pa cukta .a pa te = tavla

It doesn't matter if a sentence is a text. A book is a tex= t, a discussion is a text, a web page is a text. All men are human, but not= all humans are men.
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In any case, the sam= e problems apply to a text in general or to a
single sentence.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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