Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P6Ooh-0005Qj-ML; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 07:30:07 -0700 Received: by wye20 with SMTP id 20sf1477378wye.16 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 07:29:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=UKCMD8rp5RoFNF0jtxz3MfWbhgioOeVg9qKur8CS/SM=; b=kffUcwoqWbZ00skZGj627L1t5TH9S5CZB7hWEEailnN+ZRUYiwCoeW29kLopshRPcB Nn6f1C7r5lZcqbbdarykkus4lH9L8tXJ3/dF+I3VU8s7Tu8aqACtFMvAcJvdmAYzonp2 wOr39C646VJUh9Kr2qYf7pRlEcWEE013kfQcw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=1B8+dcPtu7TQ7AozvNpCWMpv3Z+xax7V9xG8Gc7AH5WzKCTzIa1Hbtc87anx17NQ8e 7yXQLkQubSbklZkHJCYXXu7mAbM14DpeNaqJk1Rh/n0R9nxnO2PYw06j6FJfLst5hOgS aPBWtKFCCpJkFF+0cG2R3nD3fU6rAGPvahb8s= Received: by 10.216.237.9 with SMTP id x9mr1660365weq.11.1287066515731; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 07:28:35 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.238.19 with SMTP id z19ls1074930weq.2.p; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 07:28:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.161.66 with SMTP id v44mr573082wek.7.1287066514295; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 07:28:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.161.66 with SMTP id v44mr573081wek.7.1287066514264; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 07:28:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f44.google.com (mail-ww0-f44.google.com [74.125.82.44]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id l5si539273weq.15.2010.10.14.07.28.33; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 07:28:33 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.44 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.44; Received: by mail-ww0-f44.google.com with SMTP id 40so5320537wwj.13 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 07:28:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.135.203 with SMTP id o11mr10350034wbt.162.1287066512758; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 07:28:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.145.130 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 07:28:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20101014071951.GU24066@digitalkingdom.org> References: <20101014071951.GU24066@digitalkingdom.org> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 11:28:32 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] What I'm going to do. From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com, bpfk@lojban.org X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.44 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 3163 On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 4:19 AM, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > So, here's what's going to happen. Excellent. Let's do it! If I may, I would like propose we also do the following: Every January 1st. the BPFK publishes a very concise "State of the Language" report, that looks something like this: ------------------------------- ************************* The State of the Lojban Language as of January 1st, 2011 The Official documentation of Lojban as recognized by the BPFK is: - CLL-2011 (this is the current CLL with whatever paragraph changes have been approved by January 1st 2011) (with link) - gismu-list-2011 (probably no changes this year) (with link) - cmavo-list-2011 (maybe two or three changes, maybe not) (with link) - whatever else we consider strictly official (with link) BPFK recommendations: - The BPFK recommends that people use the definitions found in "jbovlaste" for words not defined in the official documents (link to jbovlaste). - The BPFK recommends people pay attention to document xxxx (link) on "denpa bu", as we expect that a change along those lines will be made official at some point in the near future. - The BPFK recommends people pay attention to document yyyy (link) on (whatever), as we expect that a change along those lines will be made official at some point in the future. - The BPFK recommends people don't waste too much time on the official specification of (whatever, MEX?), as we expect some relevant changes may be made official in the near future. - The BPFK recommends .... (whatever else we may want to recommend). ******************************** ----------------------------------------- That should be published in some prominent BPFK site, where each year's new "State of the Language" report is added. BPFK recommendations are just what their name suggests, but they give the community a sense of what the BPFK is doing (and also helps us keep track of what we are failing to do). The CLL-2011 document will most likely contain some internal inconsistenies, and there may be a few inconsistencies between it and cmavo-2011, but it doesn't matter, we publish it all the same, CLL-2012 and cmavo-2012 will fix some of them, and CLL-2013 and cmavo-2013 will fix some others, and so on. Something imperfect is better than nothing. In the meantime, we can keep working, but we are committed to present a State of the Language Report every January 1st, no matter how little has been resolved the previous year, and no matter that we know that there are outstanding issues. The LLG may, in turn, if it so wishes, in its June or whenever meeting, give its blessing to what the BPFK has presented on January 1st, suggest to the BPFK that it look deeper into this or that language issue, and so on. What do you think? mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list?hl=en.