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John Cowan, On 15/10/2010 23:09:
> 2010/10/15 Jorge Llamb=EDas<jjllambias@gmail.com>:
>
>> OK. I think my issue in the case of Lojban is that quantifiers need to
>> be fronted for them to have scope over the matrix, whereas questions
>> have matrix scope without being fronted. I find it somewhat dissonant.
>
> Quantifiers are just arguments, whereas questions are jufra-level
> modifiers that change the overall illocutionary force.  They shouldn't
> be compared.

In my (unpublished) analysis of English interrogatives (which owes a large =
debt to xorxes), subordinate interrogatives (aka indirect questions, e.g. _=
wonder who_) involve a 'WH complementizer' (same word class as _that_) that=
 binds a variable. In main clause interrogatives, the WH complementizer is =
complement of an illocutionary operator that means "I-hereby-enquire". So e=
.g. _Who came?_ is syntactically "I-hereby-enquire that(WH)_x it_x (x is a =
person) came". I recognize that this exposition is 99% incomprehensible, bu=
t the point is that there are logically three ingredients, the relationship=
 between two of them involves variable binding, so is very like quantifiers=
, and the illocutionary ingredient is not really the core ingredient (since=
 it is present only in main clause interrogatives).

How does Lojban distinguishthe following?
"I know who she knows that he likes"=3D "I know that(WH)x she knows that he=
 likes x"
"I know that she knows who he likes"? =3D "I know that she knows that(WH)x =
he likes x"
-- these differ wrt the scope of the WH complementizer.

--And.

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