Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PAS0P-0006AX-NT; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:42:54 -0700 Received: by wyb38 with SMTP id 38sf2885126wyb.16 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:42:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:received:date:from:to :subject:message-id:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-nvg-mailscanner-information:x-nvg-mailscanner:x-mailscanner-from :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EwC90eSMXipSW2ZXEN/vIz1reJWCaxrC8m/nitgm5VE=; b=Lps5xShtViLaaZ2m+ySKo2xtLAghULYi9BpnuZL84fGrcT8KT9IYO9Qs6s9p25+tnB TJDoHa0rvzHMXf4veQHcwdSqixGXY0TorZMbbrH5R4QbCr6tBabejcdnZeY2o1dCFeCY xOWM8GphlSXJevI4p+xohjJIBPe9Gzj5m7F28= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-nvg-mailscanner-information :x-nvg-mailscanner:x-mailscanner-from:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding; b=Qf5pTCWCnO2Bd4+OVf4mVaZMOQd8CI5O1GLVFyR3U3Dy2/4u1xzhsoMV+HTVjxjUYX ctkYJk71EpWHYaH0PJ3Um3bJRvOkhNe4cH3EJ7pfsY+VXZBdhJ9qtz35qh9I6Ea47/bD MfmObMlPx+cRsQHu4zo3ApGdDPMkr34oEDLS8= Received: by 10.216.140.24 with SMTP id d24mr158091wej.3.1288032157378; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:42:37 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.14.125.12 with SMTP id y12ls222989eeh.0.p; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.29.14 with SMTP id h14mr593968eea.18.1288032148702; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.29.14 with SMTP id h14mr593967eea.18.1288032148683; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id q11si4613941eeh.0.2010.10.25.11.42.28; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of arj@nvg.ntnu.no designates 129.241.210.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=129.241.210.67; Received: from sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no (sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no [IPv6:2001:700:300:2000:92e6:baff:fe68:dd1c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC73794787 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 20:42:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no (arj@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id o9PIgMJ2025317 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 20:42:22 +0200 Received: (from arj@localhost) by sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o9PIgMVZ025316 for bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 20:42:22 +0200 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 20:42:22 +0200 From: Arnt Richard Johansen To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [bpfk] Shapado as elephant? Message-ID: <20101025184222.GO8367@nvg.org> References: <20101024221226.GI9723@digitalkingdom.org> <20101025150648.GM8367@nvg.org> <20101025173610.GB1105@digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20101025173610.GB1105@digitalkingdom.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-NVG-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-NVG-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-MailScanner-From: arj@nvg.ntnu.no X-Original-Sender: arj@nvg.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of arj@nvg.ntnu.no designates 129.241.210.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=arj@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 1596 On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 10:36:10AM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 05:06:48PM +0200, Arnt Richard Johansen > wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 03:12:26PM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > >=20 > > > What do y'all think of the idea of using a hosted version of > > > http://shapado.com/ for issues, proposed solutions, and > > > commentary around them? > >=20 > > As far as I can tell, and correct me if I'm wrong, but shapado.com > > doesn't support structuring the discourse into issues -> positions > > -> arguments, which seems to be the central idea behind the > > Elephant. >=20 > Seems like it does to me; it's got questions, responses, and > threaded comments in response to the questions. We call those > issues, positions, and arguements, seems like about the same thing, > no? Hmm! Yes, that could work. We just need ruthless administrators that remove= arguments that are posted as top-level responses, or positions that are po= sted as comments. It's not perfect, but as we should know by now, perfectio= n is the enemy of getting things done. --=20 Arnt Richard Johansen http://arj.nvg.org/ Hic est Olaus Brummus Ursus paulus silvanos Tiddeli-tiddeli bummus Mi nomen Brummus est --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= BPFK" group. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googleg= roups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-l= ist?hl=3Den.