Received: from mail-pz0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PAbuu-0001ks-Od; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 22:17:52 -0700 Received: by pzk6 with SMTP id 6sf1303472pzk.16 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 22:17:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=0IsbzM8k+tL+DTsI35GdOouarHptqDloKxK49GFe2D4=; b=YzuuPDAE0AsDZ1+L0kFDnjnSQyTrvVeMdF2GNtbpdT0KXIqJpi9hSA5Q4Uf+XKGBpS tvF51KJScJql8tF1v5Wm9Srru0l2MClhxQuUQAmn5An7kfHgaeXRsSFUQx+jHqJxOlrD Q6N4UvfG7Nw6b3L6Tb4aVDehacJ99bKMZLy8c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version :message-id:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ZfUlZBWUIugor7NLmfZqwXKqiOoivobnBit9Op28hWKML4CKh3LeZ0WM7XIZLdVzID WgrxPMfptTJKsaCEuL/O/wn1/QGJyQTZAg/9vxQuKAgWRd8tQI9T0Wt16DTppnF/c+Z9 xVqpT2wf9fZlUxOYVMDKum1A12ZUIAJPGq6I8= Received: by 10.142.151.42 with SMTP id y42mr354504wfd.46.1288070255303; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 22:17:35 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.78.15 with SMTP id a15ls9712007wfb.2.p; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 22:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.211.15 with SMTP id j15mr4656885wfg.1.1288070254269; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 22:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.211.15 with SMTP id j15mr4656884wfg.1.1288070254225; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 22:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id s21si18096793wff.4.2010.10.25.22.17.33; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 22:17:33 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.123; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=uESSSoDEku2quKX/oFXS2Smn5+55LTFcWFr5T5T8nFs= c=1 sm=0 a=Thi-58tXTcMA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=puDaLVdxiNN_CJ9JgH0A:9 a=PS86aVjqrfPF1A9OSiEh9b5rBfgA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:47952] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 58/77-07087-C6466CC4; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 05:17:32 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CBD711055 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 01:17:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: BPFK Subject: [bpfk] type-3 fu'ivla with different kinds of rafsi Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 01:17:27 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201010260117.28780.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Length: 1329 According to the Book, a type-3 fu'ivla can be made with a rafsi of form CC= V,=20 CVC, CVCC, or CCVC. AFAIK, some of us (including me) consider fu'ivla of th= e=20 form CCVrCV... or CCVnrV... to be of type 4. Looking through jbovlaste, I= =20 found one of that form: "plargoni", which means not some kind of planner bu= t=20 a geranium. There's another one, "turdunu" (bullroarer, from some Aborigina= l=20 language), which I made up originally as "turndunu" but changed=20 because "turndunu" is a type-3. jbofi'e considers "plargoni" to be of type = 4.=20 Should CCV rafsi be disallowed in type-3 fu'ivla? Also, it should be stated clearly that if a type-3 fu'ivla can be interpret= ed=20 as starting with a CVC or CVCC rafsi, it is interpreted as starting with a= =20 CVCC rafsi. Otherwise some combinations of gismu and foreign part cannot be= =20 turned into a type-3 fu'ivla. Pierre --=20 La sal en el mar es m=E1s que en la sangre. Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= BPFK" group. 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