Received: from mail-pz0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PAnpS-000534-P3; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:01:01 -0700 Received: by pzk6 with SMTP id 6sf1358225pzk.16 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:00:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition; bh=oxq1+t4JIgpQQk9Y1UrCGclo551oJdjcxiO76VhNWoc=; b=tVnmRK5tHtf0ibWIuTw/OKwksWJRkiG9UU5biS+HqhckJpK11g+csD/OWl5nSo1r4g Vhx137DkQOLuv1dmSDcYfobnVPSWhHH2cvlTQtj90iqWPqTKgPTJxTUTuw/+smK8++sZ kBrjg9VVCAYod2sJUrOuG3PZPTd+v6lc8leqE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition; b=cE+xxa9zXaPPtJefR1DTHyWnd3v7MdZIe7X/qA0naUTcBTI2ujdL64hDYIN7FAfeq7 g3FXPqOmkx9DK3NuTn3kGsS/IlaStbZD+wpWcBfMftNsq7RxvBbUvcTvg142oGFtyqav r67IoPMv4bw/Uf4hyZz/RUgHah7AEvtUp4HWY= Received: by 10.143.26.28 with SMTP id d28mr414186wfj.35.1288116047302; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:00:47 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.78.15 with SMTP id a15ls10551614wfb.2.p; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:00:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.193.8 with SMTP id q8mr5136424wff.27.1288116046720; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:00:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.193.8 with SMTP id q8mr5136422wff.27.1288116046677; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:00:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org (digitalkingdom.org [173.13.139.234]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id s21si19561677wff.4.2010.10.26.11.00.46; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:00:46 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.234; Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PAnpG-00052G-47 for bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:00:46 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:00:46 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [bpfk] CLL errata check: lujvo scoring Message-ID: <20101026180046.GN1105@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com References: <20101026061117.GJ1105@digitalkingdom.org> <20101026063822.GK1105@digitalkingdom.org> <20101026063932.GL1105@digitalkingdom.org> <7.0.1.0.2.20101026134742.01f61b78@cox.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20101026134742.01f61b78@cox.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Length: 2044 On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 01:56:00PM -0400, Nora LeChevalier wrote: > At 02:39 AM 10/26/2010, Robin wrote: > >Oh, also, it means the actual formally written out immediately > >before is wrong, and possibly some of the surrounding verbiage. > > > >It also makes negative lujvo possible, which seems icky. > > > >-Robin > [snip] > >> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 02:33:56AM -0400, John Cowan wrote: > >> > At the last minute we (which I think means Nora) decided to subtract > >> > everything from 32500 so that higher values = better lujvo. 12.1 > >> > obviously got missed, so your fix is just the wrong way round. > > In the program, a max of 6 pieces was handled. Ah. That changes things. > Looking at calculations in my lujvo-making program ( I presume this > is what you're referring to?), higher is better score: > > > Luj.LujScore := (32 - length(Luj.Lujvo)) * 1000 > + ApostTot * 500 > + (5 - HyphenCount) * 100 > + TypeTot * 10 > + VowelTot; Thaaaaaaat's not *remotely* like what's in *any* version of the book. Every book version has both positive and negative segments. It also doesn't have the 6 piece limit. I'd really prefer to change the book as little as possible. That means lower score is better. Is it *really* important that we flip it around, especially at the expense of limiting the alg's applicability? -Robin -- http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". 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