Received: from mail-px0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PAu4I-0006Av-VB; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 17:40:46 -0700 Received: by pxi19 with SMTP id 19sf6765pxi.16 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 17:40:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0vfvv+IgblVos3atGMHjEKyYiyncS5ea7pRt0HMimvg=; b=hriNJjFKN6rmTBYgzV4YcJSvx8xCqXH+bhqi3pFmZZRZbg5LXq5xDXGfIcO3XHjJcb yRzqOYTGHnuuqcXlPSuTzzTyQS1bPuoARcyI8VoSyADEO+Y5xRNahenrZRFl6WP8Sc/Q XjlhamWEcc3SFGADe3EF6NtCgVxISsl8ONcX8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; b=DJ3gNaS75nM7QU5SLfOzmKUS3zTFJrOwgslRwYm2l0mtzgcl9nr/kjDP5bh1laeSx3 kPPhvpj685/jPgrQCay5OXisWw0tL+BmJ46+lg8Tuad9G5lzPIKw/iRotGAOJ2xWbphy Y9FXM3SwGzykICDV6cdCJSkF2fS5KzNh6e0hU= Received: by 10.142.150.10 with SMTP id x10mr444423wfd.56.1288140031185; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 17:40:31 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.78.15 with SMTP id a15ls326104wfb.2.p; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 17:40:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.140.10 with SMTP id n10mr5349072wfd.72.1288140030610; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 17:40:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.140.10 with SMTP id n10mr5349071wfd.72.1288140030583; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 17:40:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org (digitalkingdom.org [173.13.139.234]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id h6si20293735wfj.5.2010.10.26.17.40.30; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 17:40:30 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.234; Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PAu3z-00069l-VK for bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 17:40:24 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 17:40:23 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [bpfk] CLL errata check: lujvo scoring Message-ID: <20101027004023.GQ1105@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com References: <20101026061117.GJ1105@digitalkingdom.org> <20101026063822.GK1105@digitalkingdom.org> <20101026063932.GL1105@digitalkingdom.org> <7.0.1.0.2.20101026134742.01f61b78@cox.net> <20101026180046.GN1105@digitalkingdom.org> <4CC7732E.3060808@lojban.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4CC7732E.3060808@lojban.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 2599 On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 08:32:46PM -0400, Robert LeChevalier wrote: >=20 > So make them match the formula in the book (which requires > removing the "32500 -" and adjusting other signs to exactly match > the formula, and then using a calculator to get the correct total > for the low-scoring algorithm; I think only 12.3 has the correct > total for the stated formula, if my head-calculator is working and > I flipped the right signs.) Actually, *all* the totals shown match the given algorithm, unless I'm *very* confused. Here's what I have currently:

The score is then:

      (1000 * L) - (500 * A) + (100 * H) - (10 * R) - V

In case of ties, there is no preference. This should be rare. Note that = the algorithm essentially encodes a hierarchy of priorities: short words ar= e preferred (counting apostrophes as half a letter), then words with fewer = hyphens, words with more pleasing rafsi (this judgment is subjective), and = finally words with more vowels are chosen. Each decision principle is appli= ed in turn if the ones before it have failed to choose; it is possible that= a lower-ranked principle might dominate a higher-ranked one if it is ten t= imes better than the alternative.

Here are some lujvo with their scores (not necessarily the lowest scorin= g forms for these lujvo, nor even necessarily sensible lujvo):

12.1)  zbasai
       zba + sai
       (1000 * 6) - (500 * 0) + (100 * 0) - (10 * 15) - 3
       =3D 5847

12.2)  nunynau
       nun + y + nau
       (1000 * 7) - (500 * 0) + (100 * 1) - (10 * 13) - 3
       =3D 6967

12.3)  sairzbata'u
       sai + r + zba + ta'u
       (1000 * 11) - (500 * 1) + (100 * 1) - (10 * 21) - 5
       =3D 10385

12.4)  zbazbasysarji
       zba + zbas + y + sarji
       (1000 * 13) - (500 * 0) + (100 * 1) - (10 * 12) - 4
       =3D 12976
-Robin --=20 http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= BPFK" group. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googleg= roups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-l= ist?hl=3Den.