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Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote:
> I wish we could come to a consensus on this. On the one hand, I tend
> to agree with John in principle, on the other hand, these forms are
> already quite widespread in practice, and nobody but John (and,
> depending on the day, me)

Me, too, for what my opinion is worth.  And very strongly at that.

One of the key mods we made from TLI Loglan to Lojban was to eliminate=20
the corresponding monosyllable CVVs, which in turn led us to add the=20
apostrophe to the language.  Going back on that essentially removes the=20
justification for adding the apostrophe, and fu'ivla are by intent NOT=20
an important enough part of the language to drive design.

> seems to care (and then why couldn't "a mere
> palatalization and labializaton" not be an allowed realization of
> them).

I dunno about you, but I cannot tell the difference between siV and ciV=20
because of palatalization.  And IIRC, native speakers of languages=20
without an l/r distinction have especial problems with those letters=20
followed by iV and uV diphthongs.

We shouldn't be making the language harder to speak in order to make it=20
easier to coin fu'ivla (I'm sure Pierre disagrees, of course).

lojbab

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