Received: from mail-pw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.160.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PC3Yf-0004Io-8F; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 22:00:51 -0700 Received: by pwi2 with SMTP id 2sf328590pwi.16 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 22:00:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:mime-version:user-agent :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mVkvmFkgQAYMGh1K+WWIq4OLKXuSwaj2FFCEWJzZbfc=; b=v+vsg3nJ7CYyA+O7oKePBUqBwn8wYZYkDI8XXTHDqw6XTSGIZoDDD7/LV0J+7dqX4X ltYYnTPNeW5uiuUqDEndp7RChfYqinjM+rv6ujQzbCRLHyfBAs9640CHKkcnLfz/x1yX YUr/r9/NSaM+eWB/4HQBPKKm63y4t1zeLnq2w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:mime-version:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding; b=6+hWtqI6M2VC2U64h8js++TCw0J8LOAYMNFI2IxbWHvInpOW0QKoZs3tEq41oEXXnJ Nv0X+lucS1j22c7FTGQyBYokjNCoIERmHELspt/eu9rO4hRI5RkcPzG60NQLFBs0z3xW hlFBlsOeIlJ0WtSZMmgwWLs12LvJO8qVJ5VeI= Received: by 10.142.150.13 with SMTP id x13mr115229wfd.6.1288414838047; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 22:00:38 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.2.41 with SMTP id 41ls2539088wfb.0.p; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 22:00:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.171.17 with SMTP id t17mr1588227wfe.10.1288414837605; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 22:00:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.171.17 with SMTP id t17mr1588226wfe.10.1288414837576; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 22:00:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org (digitalkingdom.org [173.13.139.234]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id y8si3379409wfj.5.2010.10.29.22.00.37; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 22:00:37 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of nobody@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.234; Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PC3YS-0004HG-Up for bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 22:00:37 -0700 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PC3YS-0004H7-RI for bpfk@lojban.org; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 22:00:36 -0700 Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 22:00:36 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: bpfk@lojban.org Subject: [bpfk] CLL Check: Only If Message-ID: <20101030050036.GS1105@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: bpfk@lojban.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of nobody@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nobody@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 1580 Apologies for the HTML. Here's what's in the books as far as I can tell: - -------------

Example 4.10, which uses the TFTT truth functi= on, is subject to the same rules: the stated gloss of TFTT as =93only if=94 works naturally only when the right-hand bridi is true; if= it is false, the left-hand bridi may be either true or false . The last gloss of Example 4.10 illustrates the = use of =93if ... then=94 as a more natural substitute for =93only if=94.

4.10)  la djan. nanmu .inaja la djeimyz. nin=
mu
       John is-not-a-man or James is-a-woman.
       John is a man only if James is a woman.
       If John is a man, then James is a woman.
- ------------- "if it is false, the left-hand bridi may be either true or false" is, as far as I can tell, wrong. The t,f case is false here. Am I missing something? What should this say? -Robin --=20 http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= BPFK" group. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googleg= roups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-l= ist?hl=3Den.