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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.169 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 1651 On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 01:21:42PM -0300, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: >> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Robin Lee Powell >> wrote: >> > >> > Red book says: >> > >> > =A0(It is possible to have fu'ivla like "spa'i=94 that are five >> > letters =A0long, but they must have "=A0'=A0=94; no gismu contains >> > "=A0'=A0=94.) >> >> I seem to recall "spa'i" was a typo for "spra'i", since " ' " >> didn't count as a letter in that context. > > Well, then the text would have to be: > > =A0(It is possible to have fu'ivla like "srpa'i=94 that are six letters > =A0=A0long, but they must have "=A0'=A0=94; no gismu contains "=A0'=A0=94= .) > > which seems pretty pointless, since 6 letters isn't like a gismu > anyway. If " ' " doesn't count as a letter, then "spra'i" has five letters. In other words, "spra'i" has CCCVV form, and this is a valid fu'ivla form, as long as the vowels are separated by " ' " so you can have penultimate stress. > Is there a version of this worth inserting back in, or should I just > not bother? There are several other valid five-letter fu'ivla forms: CCVVV, VCCVV, VCCCV and VVCCV, and those don't need apostrophe, so I would omit the comment. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= BPFK" group. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googleg= roups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-l= ist?hl=3Den.