<anchor xml:id=3D"c6e1d2"/>

Number summary - li<= /indexterm> number sumtiwith li number sumtisyntax of= The sumti which refer to numbers consist of the cmavo=20 + number sumtiwith li number sumtisyntax of The sumti which refer to numbers consist of the cmavo=20 li (of selma'o LI) followed by an arbitrary Loj= ban mekso, or mathematical expression. This can be anything from a simple n= umber up to the most complicated combination of numbers, variables, operato= rs, and so on. Much more information on numbers is given in=20 . Here are a few examples of increasi= ng complexity: <anchor xml:id=3D"c6e15d1"/>

li vo the-number four 4 commit 5b9fb44b9fd0c93d30cc27739a4b65e54b2c24a4 Author: Eitan Postavsky Date: Wed Jan 5 21:55:54 2011 -0500 Chapter 6 section titles. diff --git a/todocbook/20.xml b/todocbook/20.xml index b42aa71..e8e7178 100644 --- a/todocbook/20.xml +++ b/todocbook/20.xml @@ -187,21 +187,21 @@ ) When inserted between the components of a tanru, inverts it, so = that the following tanru unit modifies the previous one. mi troci co klama le zarci le zdani I am-a-trier of-type (goer to-the market from-the house). I try to go to the market from the house. =20 selma'o COI (=20 - ,=20 + ,=20 ) When prefixed to a name, description, or sumti, produces a vocat= ive: a phrase which indicates who is being spoken to (or who is speaking). = Vocatives are used in conversational protocols, including greeting, farewel= l, and radio communication. Terminated by=20 =20 . See=20 . coi .djan. Greetings, John. @@ -540,21 +540,21 @@ selma'o KOhA (=20 ) A general selma'o which contains all cmavo which can substitute = for sumti. These cmavo are divided into several groups. le blanu zdani goi ko'a cu barda .i ko'a na cmamau ti The blue house (referred to as it-1) is big. It-1 is-not smaller-than= this-thing. selma'o KU (=20 - ,=20 + ,=20 ) Elidable terminator for=20 and some uses of=20 . Indicates the end of a description sumti. Also= used after a tense or modal to indicate that no sumti follows, and in the = compound=20 +=20 to indicate natural language-style negation. le prenu ku le zdani ku klama The person, to-the house, goes. The person goes to the house. @@ -573,54 +573,54 @@ selma'o KUhO (=20 ) Elidable terminator for=20 . Indicates the end of a relative clause. le zdani poi blanu ku'o barda The house which is-blue is-big. selma'o LA (=20 - ) + ) Descriptors which change name words (or selbri) into sumti which= identify people or things by name. Similar to=20 =20 . May be terminated with=20 if followed by a description selbri. la kikeros. du la tulis. Cicero is Tully. selma'o LAU (=20 ) Combines with the following alphabetic letter to represent a sin= gle marker: change from lower to upper case, change of font, punctuation, e= tc.) =20 tau sy. .ibu [single-shift] =93s=94 =93i=94 Si (chemical symbol for silicon) selma'o LAhE (=20 - ) + ) Qualifiers which, when prefixed to a sumti, change it into anoth= er sumti with related meaning. Qualifiers can also consist of a cmavo from = selma'o=20 plus=20 . Terminated by=20 . mi viska la'e zoi kuot. A Tale of Two Cities .kuot I see that-represented-by the-text =93A Tale of Two Cities=94. I see the book =93A Tale of Two Cities=94. selma'o LE (=20 - ) + ) Descriptors which make selbri into sumti which describe or speci= fy things that fit into the x1 place of the selbri. Terminated by=20 . See=20 . le gerku cu klama le zdani The dog goes-to the house. selma'o LEhU (=20 ) @@ -678,21 +678,21 @@ selma'o LU (=20 ) Indicates the beginning of a quotation (a sumti) which is gramma= tical only if the quoted material also forms a grammatical Lojban text. Ter= minated by=20 . mi cusku lu mi klama le zarci li'u I express [quote] I go-to the market [end quote]. selma'o LUhU (=20 - ) + ) Elidable terminator for=20 and=20 +=20 . Indicates the end of a qualified sumti. mi viska la'e lu barda gerku li'u lu'u =20 =20 I see the-referent-of [quote] big dog [end quote] [end ref] I saw =93Big Dog=94 [not the words, but a book or movie]. diff --git a/todocbook/6.xml b/todocbook/6.xml index a624cc2..1acdbb3 100644 --- a/todocbook/6.xml +++ b/todocbook/6.xml @@ -1,23 +1,23 @@ To Speak Of Many Things: The Lojban sumti -

The five kinds of simple sumti =20 sumtidefinition simple sumti If you understand anythi= ng about Lojban, you know what a sumti is by now, right? An argument, one o= f those things that fills the places of simple Lojban sentences like: <anchor xml:id=3D"c6e1d1"/>

mi klama le zarci - I go-to the market + I go-to the market

pro-sumticontrasted with description In=20 ,=20 mi and=20 le zarci are the sumti. It is easy to see that = these two sumti are not of the same kind:=20 mi is a pro-sumti (the Lojban analogue of a pro= noun) referring to the speaker, whereas=20 le zarci is a description which refers to somet= hing described as being a market. sumtikinds of There are five kinds of simple su= mti provided by Lojban: =20 @@ -90,24 +90,24 @@ li<= /indexterm> ti= =20 exhibits=20 ti, a pro-sumti; and=20 li ci, a number. Most of this chapter is about descriptions, as they have the mos= t complicated syntax and usage. Some attention is also given to names, whic= h are closely interwoven with descriptions. Pro-sumti, numbers, and quotati= ons are described in more detail in=20 ,=20 , and=20 respectively, so this chapter on= ly gives summaries of their forms and uses. See=20 - through=20 - for these summaries. + through=20 + for these summaries.

The three basic description types descriptionstypes of The following cmavo are di= scussed in this section:

le LE the, the one(s) described as

lo @@ -120,21 +120,21 @@ the one(s) named

ku KU elidable terminator for LE, LA

LA selma'o LE s= elma'o selbrias part of description = descriptoras part of description descriptionscomponents of descriptio= nstypes of The syntax of descr= iptions is fairly complex, and not all of it can be explained within the co= nfines of this chapter: relative clauses, in particular, are discussed in= =20 . However, most descriptio= ns have just two components: a descriptor belonging to selma'o LE or LA, an= d a selbri. (The difference between selma'o LE and selma'o LA is not import= ant until=20 - .) Furthermore, the selbri i= s often just a single brivla. Here is an elementary example: + .) Furthermore, the selbri is often j= ust a single brivla. Here is an elementary example: <anchor xml:id=3D"c6e2d1"/>

le zarci one-or-more-specific-things-each-of-which-I-describe-as bei= ng-a-market the market

@@ -157,21 +157,21 @@ le zarci cu barda One-or-more-specific-things-which-I-describe as mark= ets is/are-big. The market is big. The markets are big. plurals= Lojban contrasted with English in necessity of marking Note that English-speakers must state whether a reference to= markets is to just one (=20 the market) or to more than one (=20 the markets). Lojban requires no such forced choice, so= both colloquial translations of=20 are valid. Only the context= can specify which is meant. (This rule does not mean that Lojban has no wa= y of specifying the number of markets in such a case: that mechanism is exp= lained in=20 - .) + .) The men are women= example Now consider the follo= wing strange-looking example: <anchor xml:id=3D"c6e2d3"/>

le nanmu cu ninmu One-or-more-specific-things-which-I-describe as men<= /quote> are women. The man is a woman. The men are women. @@ -221,21 +221,21 @@

must be false in Lojban, given that there are no objects in the = real world which are both men and women. Pointing at some specific men or w= omen would not make=20 =20 true, because those specifi= c individuals are no more both-men-and-women than any others. In general,= =20 lo refers to whatever individuals meet its desc= ription. la<= /indexterm> lause with descriptions contrasted with use before Lojbanized names lecompared with la in specificity <= indexterm type=3D"general-imported">lacompare= d with le in specificity laimplications of The last descriptor of this section is=20 la, which indicates that the selbri which follo= ws it has been dissociated from its normal meaning and is being used as a n= ame. Like=20 le descriptions,=20 la descriptions are implicitly restricted to th= ose I have in mind. (Do not confuse this use of=20 la with its use before regular Lojbanized names= , which is discussed in=20 - .) For example: + .) For example: <anchor xml:id=3D"c6e2d6"/> la cribe pu finti le lisri The-one-named=20 bear [past] creates the story. Bear wrote the story. @@ -333,21 +333,21 @@ ku. It can almost always be omitted with no dan= ger of ambiguity. The main exceptions are in certain uses of relative claus= es, which are discussed in=20 , and in the case of a des= cription immediately preceding the selbri. In this latter case, using an ex= plicit=20 cu before the selbri makes the=20 ku unnecessary. There are also a few other uses= of=20 ku: in the compound negator=20 naku (discussed in=20 ) and to terminate place-structure= , tense, and modal tags that do not have associated sumti (discussed in=20 and=20 ).

Individuals and masses The following cmavo are discussed in this section:

lei LE the mass I describe as

loi @@ -358,22 +358,22 @@ lai LA the mass of those named

sumtifor set objects sumtifor mass objects= sumti= for individual objects sumticlassified by type= s of objects referred to All Lojban sumti are class= ified by whether they refer to one of three types of objects, known as=20 individuals,=20 masses, and=20 sets. The term=20 individual is misleading when used to refer to more tha= n one object, but no less-confusing term has as yet been found. All the des= criptions in=20 - and=20 - refer to individuals, whethe= r one or more than one. Consider the following example: + and=20 + refer to individuals, wh= ether one or more than one. Consider the following example: <anchor xml:id=3D"c6e3d1"/>

le prenu cu bevri le pipno One-or-more-of-those-I-describe-as persons carry the piano.= =20 The person(s) carry the piano. =20 @@ -433,21 +433,21 @@ <anchor xml:id=3D"c6e3d4"/>

loi glipre cu xabju le fi'ortu'a Part-of-the-mass-of-those-which-really are-English-persons = dwell in-the African-land. The English dwell in Africa.

Englishman in Afr= icaexample since there is at l= east one English person living there.=20 - explains another method of s= aying what is usually meant by=20 + explains another method of saying wha= t is usually meant by=20 The lion lives in Africa which does imply that living i= n Africa is normal, not exceptional, for lions. mass objectspeculiarities of English translation of Note that the Lojban mass articles are sometimes translated by English= plurals (the most usual case), sometimes by English singulars (when the si= ngular is used to express typicalness or abstraction), and sometimes by sin= gulars with no article: =20 =20 <anchor xml:id=3D"c6e3d5"/>

loi matne cu ranti @@ -481,21 +481,21 @@ The Bears wrote this book.

Bears wrote book<= /primary>example laicontrasted with la in impli= cations lacontrasted with lai in implications<= /indexterm> in a context where=20 la cribe would be understood as plural, would m= ean that either Tom Bear or Fred Bear (to make up some names) might have wr= itten the book, or that Tom and Fred might have written it as collaborators= . Using=20 =20 la instead of=20 lai in=20 would give the implication = that each of Tom and Fred, considered individually, had written it.

Masses and sets The following cmavo are discussed in this section:

le'i LE the set described as

lo'i @@ -575,39 +575,39 @@ I am a typical Lojban user. =20 Note that the x2 place has been omitted; I am not specifying in = exactly which way I am typical - whether in language knowledge, or age, or = interests, or something else. If=20 lo'i were changed to=20 lo in=20 , the meaning would be somet= hing like=20 I am typical of some Lojban user, which is nonsense.

Descriptors for typical objects =20 The following cmavo are discussed in this section:

lo'e LE the typical

le'e LE the stereotypical =20

lo'e As promised in=20 - , Lojban has a method for dis= criminating between=20 + , Lojban has a method for discrimina= ting between=20 the lion who lives in Africa and=20 the Englishman who, generally speaking, doesn't live in= Africa even though some Englishmen do. The descriptor=20 lo'e means=20 the typical, as in <anchor xml:id=3D"c6e5d1"/>

lo'e cinfo cu xabju le fi'ortu'a @@ -665,21 +665,21 @@

Hollywoodexample is probably true to an America= n, but might be false (not the stereotype) to someone living in India or Ru= ssia. typical Smithexample name equivalent for typicalrationale for lack of Note that there is n= o naming equivalent of=20 lo'e and=20 le'e, because there is no need, as a rule, for = a=20 typical George or a=20 typical Smith. People or things who share a common name= do not, in general, have any other common attributes worth mentioning. =20

Quantified sumti The following cmavo are discussed in this section:

ro PA all of/each of

su'o @@ -696,21 +696,21 @@ vo, and=20 mu, meaning=20 one,=20 two,=20 three,=20 four,=20 five respectively, or else one of four special quantifi= ers, two of which are discussed in this section and listed above. These fou= r quantifiers are important because every Lojban sumti has either one or tw= o of them implicitly present in it - which one or two depends on the partic= ular kind of sumti. There is more explanation of implicit quantifiers later= in this section. (The other two quantifiers,=20 piro and=20 pisu'o, are explained in=20 =20 - .) + .) Every Lojban sumti may optionally be preceded by an explicit qua= ntifier. The purpose of this quantifier is to specify how many of the thing= s referred to by the sumti are being talked about. Here are some simple exa= mples contrasting sumti with and without explicit quantifiers: <anchor xml:id=3D"c6e6d1"/>

do cadzu le bisli You walk-on the ice.

@@ -826,21 +826,21 @@ <anchor xml:id=3D"c6e6d8"/>

mi cusku re lu do cadzu le bisli li'u I express two-of [quote] you walk-on the ice [unquote].

means that I say the sentence exactly twice, neither more nor le= ss.

Quantified descriptions The following cmavo are discussed in this section:

piro PA the whole of

quantificationbefore description sumti compared with before non-descrip= tion sumti Like other sumti, descriptions can be qu= antified. When a quantifier appears before a description, it has the same m= eaning as one appearing before a non-description sumti: it specifies how ma= ny things, of all those referred to by the description, are being talked ab= out in this particular bridi. Suppose that context tells us that=20 @@ -998,21 +998,21 @@ pisu'o specifies a portion consisting of at lea= st one part of a thing, i.e. some of it. =20 portion= on set contrasted with on individual outer quantifiersfor expressing subsets subsetsexpressing with outer= quantifiers Smaller quantifiers are possible for s= ets, and refer to subsets. Thus=20 =20 pimu le'i nanmu is a subset of the set of men I= have in mind; we don't know precisely which elements make up this subset, = but it must have half the size of the full set. This is the best way to say= =20 half of the men; saying=20 pimu le nanmu would give us a half-portion of o= ne of them instead! Of course, the result of=20 pimu le'i nanmu is still a set; if you need to = refer to the individuals of the subset, you must say so (see=20 lu'a in=20 =20 - ). + ). loimplicit outer quantifier for leimplicit outer quant= ifier for individual descriptorsdifferent implicit outer q= uantifiers among outer quantifiersrationale for difference= s in implicit quantifier on descriptors The case of= outer quantifiers for individual descriptors (including=20 le,=20 lo,=20 la, and the typical descriptors=20 le'e and=20 lo'e) is special. When we refer to specific ind= ividuals with=20 le, we mean to refer to all of those we have in= mind, so=20 ro is appropriate as the implicit quantifier, j= ust as it is appropriate for=20 do. Reference to non-specific individuals with= =20 lo, however, is typically to only some of the o= bjects which can be correctly described, and so=20 @@ -1067,21 +1067,21 @@ claims that some dog (or do= gs) is white, but also that there are just three dogs in the universe! Nevertheless, inner quantifiers are permitted on=20 lo descriptors for consistency's sake, and may = occasionally be useful. Note that the inner quantifier of=20 le, even when exact, need not be truthful:=20 le ci nanmu means=20 what I describe as three men, not=20 three of what I describe as men. This follows from the = rule that what is described by a=20 le description represents the speaker's viewpoi= nt rather than the objective way things are.

Indefinite descriptions descriptorsomission of loomission of By a quirk of Lojban syntax, it is possible to omit the descriptor= =20 lo, but never any other descriptor, from a desc= ription like that of=20 ; namely, one which has an e= xplicit outer quantifier but no explicit inner quantifier. The following ex= ample: <anchor xml:id=3D"c6e8d1"/>

ci gerku [ku] cu blabi @@ -1110,24 +1110,24 @@ <anchor xml:id=3D"c6e8d2"/>

mi ponse su'o ci lo cutci I possess at-least three things-which-really-are shoes I own three (or more) shoes.

sumti-based descriptions As stated in=20 - , most descriptions consist o= f just a descriptor and a selbri. (In this chapter, the selbri have always = been single gismu, but of course any selbri, however complex, can be employ= ed in a description. The syntax and semantics of selbri are explained in=20 + , most descriptions consi= st of just a descriptor and a selbri. (In this chapter, the selbri have alw= ays been single gismu, but of course any selbri, however complex, can be em= ployed in a description. The syntax and semantics of selbri are explained i= n=20 .) In the intervening sections, inne= r and outer quantifiers have been added to the syntax. Now it is time to di= scuss a description of a radically different kind: the sumti-based descript= ion. =20 sumti-based descr= iptionouter quantifier on sumti-based descriptioninner quantifier on sumti-based descriptiondef= inition A sumti-based description has a sumti where= the selbri would normally be, and the inner quantifier is required - it ca= nnot be implicit. An outer quantifier is permitted but not required. =20 A full theory of sumti-based descriptions has yet to be worked o= ut. One common case, however, is well understood. Compare the following: <anchor xml:id=3D"c6e9d1"/>

@@ -1183,21 +1183,21 @@ One-of the two-of the three bears are-brown. =20

three bearsexample sumti-based descriptions with leas = increasing restricting to in-mind In each case,=20 le ci cribe restricts the bears (or alleged bea= rs) being talked of to some group of three which the speaker has in mind.= =20 says that two of them (whic= h two is not stated) are brown.=20 says that a specific pair o= f them are brown.=20 says that of a specific pai= r chosen from the original three, one or the other of that pair is brown.

sumti qualifiers The following cmavo are discussed in this section: sumti qualifiers<= /primary>list of FIXME: TAG SPOT

la'e LAhE something referred to by

@@ -1440,21 +1440,21 @@ lukewarm foodexample (In=20 , the sumti=20 ra refers to some previously mentioned sumti ot= her than that referred to by=20 ri. We cannot use=20 ri here, because it would signify=20 la djein., that being the most recent sumti ava= ilable to=20 ri. See more detailed explanations in=20 .)

The syntax of vocative phrases vocative phrases<= /primary>as a free modifier Vocative phrases are not sumti, but are explained in this chapter becaus= e their syntax is very similar to that of sumti. Grammatically, a vocative = phrase is one of the so-called=20 =20 free modifiers of Lojban, along with subscripts, parent= heses, and various other constructs explained in=20 =20 . They can be placed after many, = but not all, constructions of the grammar: in general, after any elidable t= erminator (which, however, must not then be elided!), at the beginnings and= ends of sentences, and in many other places. DOI selma'o COI= selma'o vocative phrasepurpose of T= he purpose of a vocative phrase is to indicate who is being addressed, or t= o indicate to that person that he or she ought to be listening. A vocative = phrase begins with a cmavo of selma'o COI or DOI, all of which are explaine= d in more detail in=20 =20 . Sometimes that is all there = is to the phrase: @@ -1588,41 +1588,41 @@

ko klama mi doi djan. Come to me, John!

As usual for this chapter, the full syntax of vocative phrases h= as not been explained: relative clauses, discussed in=20 , make for more possibilit= ies.

Lojban names Names have been used freely as sumti throughout this chapter wit= hout too much explanation. The time for the explanation has now come. name wordsrecognition of namestwo kinds of= First of all, there are two different kinds of things usually = called=20 names when talking about Lojban. The naming pre= dicates of=20 - are just ordinary predicates= which are being used in a special sense. In addition, though, there is a c= lass of Lojban words which are used only to name things: these can be recog= nized by the fact that they end in a consonant followed by a pause. Some ex= amples: + are just ordinary predic= ates which are being used in a special sense. In addition, though, there is= a class of Lojban words which are used only to name things: these can be r= ecognized by the fact that they end in a consonant followed by a pause. Som= e examples: <anchor xml:id=3D"c6e12d1"/>

djan. meris. djein. .alis. John. Mary. Jane. Alice.

(Note that=20 .alis. begins as well as ends with a pause, bec= ause all Lojban words beginning with a vowel must be preceded by a pause. S= ee=20 for more information.) nameswith LA descriptor namesin vocative phrase namesuses of Names of this kind have two= basic uses in Lojban: when used in a vocative phrase (see=20 =20 - ) they indicate who the list= ener is or should be. When used with a descriptor of selma'o LA, namely=20 + ) they indicate who the listener = is or should be. When used with a descriptor of selma'o LA, namely=20 la,=20 lai, or=20 la'i, they form sumti which refer to the person= s or things known by the name. <anchor xml:id=3D"c6e12d2"/>

la djonz. klama le zarci Jones goes to-the store. @@ -1751,21 +1751,21 @@ names from vowel-= final basecommonly used consonant endings<= /indexterm> names<= secondary>borrowing from other languages When borro= wing names from another language which end in a vowel, or when turning a Lo= jban brivla (all of which end in vowels) into a name, the vowel may be remo= ved or an arbitrary consonant added. It is common (but not required) to use= the consonants=20 =20 s or=20 n when borrowing vowel-final nam= es from English; speakers of other languages may wish to use other consonan= t endings. =20 names with laimplicit quantifier for The implic= it quantifier for name sumti of the form=20 la followed by a name is=20 su'o, just as for=20 la followed by a selbri.

Pro-sumti summary pro-sumticlasses of The Lojban pro-sumti are th= e cmavo of selma'o KOhA. They fall into several classes: personal, definabl= e, quantificational, reflexive, back-counting, indefinite, demonstrative, m= etalinguistic, relative, question. More details are given in=20 ; this section mostly dupli= cates information found there, but adds material on the implicit quantifier= of each pro-sumti. ro<= /indexterm> pro-sumtiimplicit quantifier for The following= examples illustrate each of the classes. Unless otherwise noted below, the= implicit quantification for pro-sumti is=20 ro (all). In the case of pro-sumti which refer = to other sumti, the=20 ro signifies=20 all of those referred to by the other sumti: thus it is= possible to restrict, but not to extend, the quantification of the other s= umti. personal pro-sumt= i Personal pro-sumti (=20 mi,=20 do,=20 @@ -1958,21 +1958,21 @@ You go to-what-sumti? Where are you going? question pro-sumt= iimplicit quantifier for The i= mplicit quantifier for the question pro-sumti is=20 =20 su'o (at least one), because the listener is on= ly being asked to supply a single answer, not all correct answers. definable pro-sum= tisequences of lerfu words as = In addition, sequences of lerfu words (of selma'o BY and related selma'o) c= an also be used as definable pro-sumti. =20

Quotation summary quotationfour kinds There are four kinds of quo= tation in Lojban: text quotation, words quotation, single-word quotation, n= on-Lojban quotation. More information is provided in . li'u lu text quotatio= nas internally grammatical text quotationsyntax of Text quotations are preceded by=20 lu and followed by=20 li'u, and are an essential part of the surround= ing text: they must be grammatical Lojban texts. <anchor xml:id=3D"c6e14d1"/>

@@ -2015,21 +2015,21 @@ mi cusku zoi kuot. I'm John .kuot I say=20 I'm John.

quotationimplicit quantifier for The implicit q= uantifier for all types of quotation is=20 su'o (at least one), because quotations are ana= logous to=20 lo descriptions: they refer to things which act= ually are words or sequences of words.

Number summary li<= /indexterm> number sumtiwith li number sumtisyntax of= The sumti which refer to numbers consist of the cmavo=20 li (of selma'o LI) followed by an arbitrary Loj= ban mekso, or mathematical expression. This can be anything from a simple n= umber up to the most complicated combination of numbers, variables, operato= rs, and so on. Much more information on numbers is given in=20 . Here are a few examples of increasi= ng complexity: <anchor xml:id=3D"c6e15d1"/>

li vo diff --git a/todocbook/TODO b/todocbook/TODO index 1e3cc75..60dc924 100644 --- a/todocbook/TODO +++ b/todocbook/TODO @@ -4,21 +4,21 @@ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 Most of the below is intended to be done as needed as you review a particular chapter/section. It looks like more complexity than it actually is; you'll get used to it. =20 SAY HERE WHAT YOU'VE DONE, including parts you haven't completed (like index work). =20 Robin Powell: 5.1, 5.2, 5.3 -Zort: 3, 4, 5 (they still contain FIXMEs though) +Zort: 3, 4, 5 (they contain FIXMEs though) =20 ------ =20 Ignore Chapter 2 for now. =20 ------ =20 If you have any trouble, add a FIXME comment, like so: =20 --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= BPFK" group. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googleg= roups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-l= ist?hl=3Den.