Received: from mail-wi0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]:39643) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S69z2-0006xv-BM; Fri, 09 Mar 2012 16:16:40 -0800 Received: by wibhq12 with SMTP id hq12sf1242034wib.16 for ; Fri, 09 Mar 2012 16:16:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=hvuXU7g3D6cdOgz6OwwKdlbqEbCOYUR2Pg1UV7shcdc=; b=VbWtMukd5gnPd06OuQ2V10xPlSozDkB0BvVUSI1R8z+dSOfOXRe9Hrqyj6v43d34/Z uRr9Zx1Vl/maY+U5T+kgmC1pEfUiCKbv4rpCtMANslIvnDzBju79LVSwrnESBPRKv6jO DAhFZK6iZd6ir6wpBbzbwPNnGfPtN54w0aQDU= Received: by 10.205.134.132 with SMTP id ic4mr398396bkc.28.1331338574676; Fri, 09 Mar 2012 16:16:14 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.143.211 with SMTP id w19ls6236465bku.9.gmail; Fri, 09 Mar 2012 16:16:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.129.15 with SMTP id m15mr340788bks.2.1331338573946; Fri, 09 Mar 2012 16:16:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.129.15 with SMTP id m15mr340787bks.2.1331338573918; Fri, 09 Mar 2012 16:16:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f42.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f42.google.com [209.85.215.42]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 8si7793351bka.1.2012.03.09.16.16.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 09 Mar 2012 16:16:13 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.42 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.42; Received: by lahl5 with SMTP id l5so5094856lah.1 for ; Fri, 09 Mar 2012 16:16:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.25.40 with SMTP id z8mr1546441lbf.11.1331338573430; Fri, 09 Mar 2012 16:16:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.148.225 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Mar 2012 16:16:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20120309235805.GL14076@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> References: <20120308183706.GB14076@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20120308215121.GD14076@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20120309192436.GG14076@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20120309235805.GL14076@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 17:16:13 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] What's the status of the BPFK? From: Jonathan Jones To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com, "dag.odenhall@gmail.com" X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d040122a3bec1a604bad86a39 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 14010 --f46d040122a3bec1a604bad86a39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That certainly looks like it. Is Dag = donri, though? On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Robin Lee Powell < rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > I think it might be this? https://github.com/dag/kibr Copying him. > > -Robin > > On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 04:51:25PM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > Do you know if donri's work is available online somewhere so I can look > at > > it? > > > > On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Robin Lee Powell < > > rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 03:24:58AM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Robin Lee Powell < > > > > rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > The two major things we need are work on CLLv1.1 and someone to > > > > > write a new version of jbovlaste. > > > > > > > > > > The latter somewhat speaks for itself, I think, in terms of the > > > > > skills required. > > > > > > > > > > WRT CLLv1.1, there's a wide variety of work of all levels of > > > > > complexity; see https://github.com/dag/cll/blob/docbook/TODO . > > > > > I'm available to tutor people a certain amount on this, if they > > > > > come find me on IRC during US/Pacific daylight hours. > > > > > > > > > > -Robin > > > > > > > > > > > > > Right. This loks like a weekend thing. Just gettting through > > > > README-tags looks like it'll take awhile. That and the fact that > > > > it looks like I need to learn LaTeX to actually be of any use. In > > > > any case, I'm perfectly willing to help with CLLv1.1. > > > > > > Oh no, there's a *ton* of work that can be done without learning > > > LaTeX, believe me. > > > > > > As an example, right now I'm going through all the interlinear-gloss > > > tables and making sure everything lines out in the output; this > > > doesn't even require reading README-tags, really, just looking at > > > what's there and fixing it. > > > > > > > As far as jbovlaste v2 is concerned, I'd like to help, but I'm > > > > hindered by two things, one of which is more important: I don't > > > > know what the design specifications are, and I'm not certain I yet > > > > have the needed skills. It's obviously a programming thing, which > > > > is my field, but it might be above my pay grade. I'd need to see > > > > the specs. to know for certain. (That said, I'll admit I'd much > > > > rather work on a program than a book.) > > > > > > We can talk about the design specifications at length, I have many > > > ideas. I believe donri has started on something in Haskell. > > > > > > One of the big requirements, though, is "must be written in > > > something that's relatively popular in the Lojban community", > > > because I'm sick of being the only person maintaining this thing. I > > > did a bit of a survey a while back; http://snag.gy/bNmxJ.jpg for the > > > results. Basically, Haskell and Python are the frontrunners (and I > > > don't program Python, which skews my response a bit :). So, it > > > partly depends what you're willing to work in. > > > > > > If someone was going to be able to put hours a week into something > > > around here, though, I'd want it to be jvs2. > > > > > > -Robin > > > > > > -- > > > http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. > > > .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u .e > > > lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e > > > lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu > sofybakni > > > li'u > > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > > "BPFK" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list?hl=en. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "BPFK" group. > > To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list?hl=en. > > > > -- > http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. > .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u .e > lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e > lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni > li'u > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "BPFK" group. > To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list?hl=en. > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list?hl=en. --f46d040122a3bec1a604bad86a39 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That certainly looks like it. Is Dag =3D donri, though?

On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digita= lkingdom.org> wrote:
I think it might be this? https://github.com/dag/kibr =A0= Copying him.

-Robin

On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 04:51:25PM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> Do you know if donri's work is available online somewhere so I can= look at
> it?
>
> On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Robin Lee Powell <
> rlpowell@digitalkingdom= .org> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 03:24:58AM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Robin Lee Powell <
> > > rlpowell@digi= talkingdom.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > The two major things we need are work on CLLv1.1 and so= meone to
> > > > write a new version of jbovlaste.
> > > >
> > > > The latter somewhat speaks for itself, I think, in term= s of the
> > > > skills required.
> > > >
> > > > WRT CLLv1.1, there's a wide variety of work of all = levels of
> > > > complexity; see https://github.com/dag/cll/blob/docbook= /TODO .
> > > > I'm available to tutor people a certain amount on t= his, if they
> > > > come find me on IRC during US/Pacific daylight hours. > > > >
> > > > -Robin
> > > >
> > >
> > > Right. This loks like a weekend thing. Just gettting through=
> > > README-tags looks like it'll take awhile. That and the f= act that
> > > it looks like I need to learn LaTeX to actually be of any us= e. In
> > > any case, I'm perfectly willing to help with CLLv1.1. > >
> > Oh no, there's a *ton* of work that can be done without learn= ing
> > LaTeX, believe me.
> >
> > As an example, right now I'm going through all the interlinea= r-gloss
> > tables and making sure everything lines out in the output; this > > doesn't even require reading README-tags, really, just lookin= g at
> > what's there and fixing it.
> >
> > > As far as jbovlaste v2 is concerned, I'd like to help, b= ut I'm
> > > hindered by two things, one of which is more important: I do= n't
> > > know what the design specifications are, and I'm not cer= tain I yet
> > > have the needed skills. It's obviously a programming thi= ng, which
> > > is my field, but it might be above my pay grade. I'd nee= d to see
> > > the specs. to know for certain. (That said, I'll admit I= 'd much
> > > rather work on a program than a book.)
> >
> > We can talk about the design specifications at length, I have man= y
> > ideas. =A0I believe donri has started on something in Haskell. > >
> > One of the big requirements, though, is "must be written in<= br> > > something that's relatively popular in the Lojban community&q= uot;,
> > because I'm sick of being the only person maintaining this th= ing. =A0I
> > did a bit of a survey a while back; http://snag.gy/bNmxJ.jpg for the
> > results. =A0Basically, Haskell and Python are the frontrunners (a= nd I
> > don't program Python, which skews my response a bit :). =A0So= , it
> > partly depends what you're willing to work in.
> >
> > If someone was going to be able to put hours a week into somethin= g
> > around here, though, I'd want it to be jvs2.
> >
> > -Robin
> >
> > --
> > http://singins= t.org/ : =A0Our last, best hope for a fantastic future.
> > .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i= li'u .e
> > lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li= 'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e
> > lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e= lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni
> > li'u
> >
> > --
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> > To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com.
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> > bpfk-= list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
> > For more options, visit this group at
> > http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list?hl=3Den.
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>
> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo= 'o
> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
>
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lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e = lu go'i na'i li'u .e
lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mam= ta be do cu sofybakni li'u

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