Received: from mail-wi0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]:51292) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T1ClR-0005od-KK; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 01:46:24 -0700 Received: by wibhr14 with SMTP id hr14sf34237wib.16 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 01:46:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from :to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=MJFXlxTh/PderZCQRDW85hI91y/aLDBuhdcStOJgwI0=; b=VcsAv3jA9wjlVZJ1yQFa3U2v78/DRsrIPow91x/rxwh4okh1qRRLRf1FLgfGIoFjoe B3QhIN5BdeJ09BKVg8OWzzuxQJFW07FvkvlFCa48PgUvKVq2S6voYu8oV0DRrpD0T+6y ISJVILQcoauZ2uyqgTIHoWnTAG57uDH3mzYIw= Received: by 10.204.145.73 with SMTP id c9mr493556bkv.16.1344933966079; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 01:46:06 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.7.203 with SMTP id e11ls103998bke.8.gmail; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 01:46:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.154.76 with SMTP id n12mr1731381bkw.1.1344933965382; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 01:46:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.154.76 with SMTP id n12mr1731379bkw.1.1344933965300; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 01:46:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f179.google.com (mail-lb0-f179.google.com [209.85.217.179]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k7si459901bks.2.2012.08.14.01.46.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 14 Aug 2012 01:46:05 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.179 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.217.179; Received: by lbao2 with SMTP id o2so90053lba.10 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 01:46:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.88.34 with SMTP id bd2mr7387884lbb.33.1344933964862; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 01:46:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.123.19 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 01:46:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 02:46:04 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: [bpfk] carna From: Jonathan Jones To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.179 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04016add38d5fa04c735d73b X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 4343 --f46d04016add38d5fa04c735d73b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 So, this has been going about for a bit. I'm sure most of you are already aware of it. Since this is the BPFK, I thought I'd see what the opinions of the people in charge of language changes etc. were. Specifically, what do the BPFK members think of doing the following: 1. Change the meaning of carna from "x1 turns/rotates/revolves around axis x2 in direction x3" to "x1 turns from x2 to x3" which has very little impact on usage thus far (all 144 instances of usage, that is). 2. Add two new gismu with the following meanings: word1: x1 is rotating counter-clockwise viewed from orientation x2 about rotational axis/axes (set if multiple) x3 word2: x1 is rotating clockwise viewed from orientation x2 about rotational axis/axes (set if multiple) x3 Thanks to Broca, I was able to run the algorithm to get these possible gismu for the two new words: Chinese: lunliu Hindi: gumai English: rotait Spanish: xirar Russian: vraciat Arabic: tonauibu I asked Broca to run the algorithm on the above, and we got this: (2.2040000000000002, 'gutni', [3.0, 3.0, 2.0, 0.0, 0.0, 3.0]) (2.0789999999999997, 'ramli', [2.0, 2.0, 3.0, 2.0, 3.0, 0.0]) (2.0339999999999998, 'ralni', [3.0, 0.0, 3.0, 2.0, 3.0, 0.0]) (2.0339999999999998, 'ranli', [3.0, 0.0, 3.0, 2.0, 3.0, 0.0]) (1.9769999999999999, 'glani', [3.0, 3.0, 0.0, 0.0, 2.0, 2.0]) Again, I'm just trying to get feel of the atmosphere in BPFK-land regarding the whole carna thing. -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list?hl=en. --f46d04016add38d5fa04c735d73b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So, this has been going about for a bit. I'm sure most of you are alrea= dy aware of it.

Since this is the BPFK, I thought I'd see what t= he opinions of the people in charge of language changes etc. were.

Specifically, what do the BPFK members think of doing the following:
1. Change the meaning of carna from "x1 turns/rotates/revolves around= axis x2 in direction x3" to "x1 turns from x2 to x3" which = has very little impact on usage thus far (all 144 instances of usage, that = is).

2. Add two new gismu with the following meanings:

word1: x1 is r= otating counter-clockwise viewed from orientation x2 about rotational axis/= axes (set if multiple) x3
word2: x1 is rotating clockwise viewed from or= ientation x2 about rotational axis/axes (set if multiple) x3

Thanks to Broca, I was able to run the algorithm to get these possible = gismu for the two new words:
Chinese: lunliu
Hindi: gumai
English: rotait
Spanish: xirar
Russian: vraciat
Arabic: tonauibu

I asked Broca to run the algorithm on the above, an= d we got this:
(2.2040000000000002, 'gutni', [3.0, 3.0, 2.0, 0.0= , 0.0, 3.0])
(2.0789999999999997, 'ramli', [2.0, 2.0, 3.0, 2.0, = 3.0, 0.0])
(2.0339999999999998, 'ralni', [3.0, 0.0, 3.0, 2.0, 3.0, 0.0])
(2= .0339999999999998, 'ranli', [3.0, 0.0, 3.0, 2.0, 3.0, 0.0])
(1.9= 769999999999999, 'glani', [3.0, 3.0, 0.0, 0.0, 2.0, 2.0])

Again, I'm just trying to get feel of the atmosphere in BPFK-land regar= ding the whole carna thing.

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.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'= ;o
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