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On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Bob LeChevalier, President and
Founder - LLG <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote:
> Pierre Abbat wrote:
>>
>> and add a new gismu meaning "x1 turns from
>> x2 to x3",
>
> sounds like carna-klama (carkla) would meet that need.

But doesn't "carkla" (or "carmu'u" if we don't want a means of
transportation) involve translational motion? Like a tornado may
carmu'u to one city from another? It seems that klama and muvdu
involve a change in position as a change of location, rather than a
change in position as a change of posture.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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