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Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Bob LeChevalier, President and
> Founder - LLG <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote:
>> Pierre Abbat wrote:
>>>
>>> and add a new gismu meaning "x1 turns from
>>> x2 to x3",
>>
>> sounds like carna-klama (carkla) would meet that need.
>
> But doesn't "carkla" (or "carmu'u" if we don't want a means of
> transportation) involve translational motion? Like a tornado may
> carmu'u to one city from another?

It rotates, but I'm not sure of the connection between the rotation and=20
the translational movement of a tornado. carjevmu'u perhaps

  It seems that klama and muvdu
> involve a change in position as a change of location, rather than a
> change in position as a change of posture.

I'm not sure why this is necessarily so.  They refer to distinct origin=20
and destination places, and a route.  If all those can be specified=20
meaningfully, I'm not sure translational movement is required.

But then I'm not sure that there is no translation, anyway.  Turning=20
would be a translation in polar coordinates of the direction of facing.=20
  The object does not translate, but its facing does.


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