On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 5:13 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:

On Tuesday 14 August 2012 04:46:04 Jonathan Jones wrote:<= br> > So, this has been going about for a bit. I'm sure most of you are = already
> aware of it.
>
> Since this is the BPFK, I thought I'd see what the opinions of the= people
> in charge of language changes etc. were.
>
> Specifically, what do the BPFK members think of doing the following: >
> 1. Change the meaning of carna from "x1 turns/rotates/revolves ar= ound axis
> x2 in direction x3" to "x1 turns from x2 to x3" which h= as very little
> impact on usage thus far (all 144 instances of usage, that is).
>
> 2. Add two new gismu with the following meanings:
>
> word1: x1 is rotating counter-clockwise viewed from orientation x2 abo= ut
> rotational axis/axes (set if multiple) x3
> word2: x1 is rotating clockwise viewed from orientation x2 about rotat= ional
> axis/axes (set if multiple) x3

I would prefer to keep "carna" as it is, specifying that x3= is stated
according to the right-hand rule, and add a new gismu meaning "x1 turn= s from
x2 to x3", where x2 and x3 could be stated as angles or as things x1 i= s
facing. This definition of "carna" works well in 3D, but in 2D th= e direction
of rotation is a sign (plus or minus), and in 4D an object can turn
independently in two perpendicular planes.

The rea= son for my suggestion of changing carna is because the majority of it's= use thus far is in that manner. I'm not invested at all in the actual = words we use for the definitions.
=A0

> Thanks to Broca, I was able to run the algorithm to get these possible=
> gismu for the two new words:
> Chinese: lunliu
> Hindi: gumai
> English: rotait
> Spanish: xirar
> Russian: vraciat
> Arabic: tonauibu

The English should be "roteit", and in the Russian the &quo= t;t" is the infinitive
ending and should be dropped; similarly the last "r" in Spanish. = I don't know
offhand if we drop the thematic vowel (the "a" before the "r= " or "t").
Spanish has pairs of verbs with completely different meaning differing only=
in that one is first-conjugation and one is second or third.

Ah. Yes. I was tired so please excuse "rotite", and I = didn't know about the other languages.
=A0
Pierre
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