Received: from mail-pa0-f63.google.com ([209.85.220.63]:33709) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1ThhqA-00025i-Dw; Sun, 09 Dec 2012 06:26:54 -0800 Received: by mail-pa0-f63.google.com with SMTP id bi5sf1518644pad.18 for ; Sun, 09 Dec 2012 06:26:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=8Z5z7u5oDrNTgKRyJmPlTYKuR1c7bYmbD9lVdnR0UQk=; b=vO7XjkeaoyegWr/gZa7w5B9XQJ1Eynuu1vhyZNm6K2ANmsvLD/klEHB68drYVGq2hy XCR/jq9lwnMYSuTlb18FV7ZbAtj8lSygdozqZPUGoRSqP8FdnrYSYXcbCQPmsmd14SV0 u+obJzXLT8KMRqyp01Nq/vTGNgcDXuSVaLKxu0gQg+6z4tBYjwewA5qxCm6bls1htwe8 J1FzNbVhOEpv/MYHHkIiwg/QeLPdsJ26ap1PmU+5XKCt4FA843T6H3corxAm1r1tIEGu bX9GNpt2RKIT7atJGylQofvI0XVWKw/Bi4k9XguXBqYNsL73NTmedzH4IhreUlFd1rsR U7cw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=8Z5z7u5oDrNTgKRyJmPlTYKuR1c7bYmbD9lVdnR0UQk=; b=j9WrU5Ckp4YmSoVYHJliE5IllmFsvsTxspF9fWnPy6V6HexLMqe93FlEXvek9DfhiZ gr/m+Eh2LAouABOdKkJNhVYiMp6VCOTg7pxH7ajQUYdcQM3OhhA038pbWpa3T3Vb2cJv 1KoNfOcUqieIsRoqNXKodNDKVG2NTkOhwjX5OXwyl/CTdOKMJ1heYUXNSVl1ryntvfbH tfl+XbQhvSEz4oHql98h8G7HsIz+djGRSL1IqaX+Uti95bnSsmXbPNqViNpYVxPdp2hn JCqv4UIITMTHZJ20MrMJLI1o6pOykSqvMzLtexQ34tlzo2RvbZXmW4cxVPplXcgZ7vZ6 fdsA== Received: by 10.50.207.74 with SMTP id lu10mr1654561igc.11.1355063200269; Sun, 09 Dec 2012 06:26:40 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.100.234 with SMTP id fb10ls1035186igb.41.gmail; Sun, 09 Dec 2012 06:26:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.197.201 with SMTP id iw9mr2591685pbc.6.1355063199781; Sun, 09 Dec 2012 06:26:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.197.201 with SMTP id iw9mr2591684pbc.6.1355063199771; Sun, 09 Dec 2012 06:26:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pb0-f47.google.com (mail-pb0-f47.google.com [209.85.160.47]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t8si3611035pax.0.2012.12.09.06.26.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 09 Dec 2012 06:26:39 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.47 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.47; Received: by mail-pb0-f47.google.com with SMTP id un1so1151966pbc.6 for ; Sun, 09 Dec 2012 06:26:39 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.66.82.162 with SMTP id j2mr17173740pay.13.1355063199709; Sun, 09 Dec 2012 06:26:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.88.200 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 06:26:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5f510bca-668c-405a-9fbd-78fbcf8da281@googlegroups.com> References: <95cdbee4-7ddc-4f7d-bb48-4591b7c3d915@googlegroups.com> <50C10003.1080806@lojban.org> <5406c1d2-ee78-4b41-ab68-06b7cf99dce7@googlegroups.com> <20121208182108.GI30125@mercury.ccil.org> <20121208194909.GK30125@mercury.ccil.org> <-2630662732168703446@unknownmsgid> <20121209025300.GF10989@mercury.ccil.org> <5f510bca-668c-405a-9fbd-78fbcf8da281@googlegroups.com> Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 11:26:39 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] polysemy of {nai} From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.47 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 871 On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 10:35 AM, la gleki wrote: > Now I clearly understand your definition of {na} here. > > And I guess J.Cowan disagrees with it. It's a rather inconsequential disagreement. I think we both agree that whenever the property or relation is applicable, "na" and "na'e" have the same meaning (other than scope). The question of whether "na" returns true or undefined when the predicate is not even applicable is not all that interesting, since either way it's just confusing. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list?hl=en.