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On Sunday, December 9, 2012 6:26:39 PM UTC+4, xorxes wrote:
>
> On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 10:35 AM, la gleki <gleki.is...@gmail.com<javascript:>> 
> wrote: 
> > Now I clearly understand your definition of {na} here. 
> > 
> > And I guess J.Cowan disagrees with it. 
>
> It's a rather inconsequential disagreement. I think we both agree that 
> whenever the property or relation is applicable, "na" and "na'e" have 
> the same meaning (other than scope). The question of whether "na" 
> returns true or undefined when the predicate is not even applicable is 
> not all that interesting, since either way it's just confusing. 
>

Now it makes perfect sense.
The only that bothers me is that 
{.uinai} means {sei to'e gleki}
whereas
{gleki nai} means {na'e gleki}
which is counterintuitive.

Also not only {nai} but UI4 should be moved to CAI so that we get two 
selma'o that work similar in syntax but that differ in semantics.

 

>
> mu'o mi'e xorxes 
>

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<br><br>On Sunday, December 9, 2012 6:26:39 PM UTC+4, xorxes wrote:<blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left=
: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 10:35 AM, la gl=
eki &lt;<a href=3D"javascript:" target=3D"_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto=3D"=
O1FdzrvlafkJ">gleki.is...@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
<br>&gt; Now I clearly understand your definition of {na} here.
<br>&gt;
<br>&gt; And I guess J.Cowan disagrees with it.
<br>
<br>It's a rather inconsequential disagreement. I think we both agree that
<br>whenever the property or relation is applicable, "na" and "na'e" have
<br>the same meaning (other than scope). The question of whether "na"
<br>returns true or undefined when the predicate is not even applicable is
<br>not all that interesting, since either way it's just confusing.
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Now it makes perfect sense.</div><div>=
The only that bothers me is that <br>{.uinai} means {sei to'e gleki}<br>whe=
reas<br>{gleki nai} means {na'e gleki}</div><div>which is counterintuitive.=
</div><div><br></div><div>Also not only {nai} but UI4 should be moved to CA=
I so that we get two selma'o that work similar in syntax but that differ in=
 semantics.</div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp;</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left: 1ex;">
<br>mu'o mi'e xorxes
<br></blockquote>

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