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On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 1:28 AM, John Cowan <cowan@mercury.ccil.org> wrote:
la gleki scripsit:

> The only that bothers me is that
> {.uinai} means {sei to'e gleki}

Yes.

> whereas
> {gleki nai} means {na'e gleki}

That's ungrammatical as of right now.

So= , in other words, {gleki nai} means ---PARSE ERROR---
=A0
> which is counterintuitive.

-nai means what it is convenient for it to mean in the specific
circumstances in which it is legal.
O beautiful for patriot's dream that sees beyond the years
Thine alabaster cities gleam undimmed by human tears!
America! America! =A0God mend thine every flaw,
Confirm thy soul in self-control, thy liberty in law!
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --one of the verses not usually taught in U.S. schools

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