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On Saturday, December 22, 2012 12:30:27 PM UTC+4, aionys wrote:
>
> On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 1:28 AM, John Cowan <co...@mercury.ccil.org<javascript:>
> > wrote:
>
>> la gleki scripsit:
>>
>> > The only that bothers me is that
>> > {.uinai} means {sei to'e gleki}
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> > whereas
>> > {gleki nai} means {na'e gleki}
>>
>> That's ungrammatical as of right now.
>>
>
> So, in other words, {gleki nai} means ---PARSE ERROR---
>

We are talking about xorxe's proposals  which are counterintuitive as i'm 
trying to show.
{nai} works fine in logical connectives where it (semantically) means {na}, 
works well with UI having another meaning.
But those two meanings currently being strictly separated in the mind of *nintadni 
*will collide and conflict with each other if xorxe's proposal is applied.
 

>  
>
>> > which is counterintuitive.
>>
>> -nai means what it is convenient for it to mean in the specific
>> circumstances in which it is legal.
>>
>> --
>> John Cowan  co...@ccil.org <javascript:>   http://www.ccil.org/~cowan
>> O beautiful for patriot's dream that sees beyond the years
>> Thine alabaster cities gleam undimmed by human tears!
>> America! America!  God mend thine every flaw,
>> Confirm thy soul in self-control, thy liberty in law!
>>         --one of the verses not usually taught in U.S. schools
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<br><br>On Saturday, December 22, 2012 12:30:27 PM UTC+4, aionys wrote:<blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-=
left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat,=
 Dec 22, 2012 at 1:28 AM, John Cowan <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"javas=
cript:" target=3D"_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto=3D"i7fYB2wgegMJ">co...@merc=
ury.ccil.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
la gleki scripsit:<br>
<div><br>
&gt; The only that bothers me is that<br>
&gt; {.uinai} means {sei to'e gleki}<br>
<br>
</div>Yes.<br>
<div><br>
&gt; whereas<br>
&gt; {gleki nai} means {na'e gleki}<br>
<br>
</div>That's ungrammatical as of right now.<br></blockquote><div><br>So, in=
 other words, {gleki nai} means ---PARSE ERROR---<br></div></div></blockquo=
te><div><br></div><div>We are talking about xorxe's proposals &nbsp;which a=
re counterintuitive as i'm trying to show.</div><div>{nai} works fine in lo=
gical connectives where it (semantically) means {na}, works well with UI ha=
ving another meaning.</div><div>But those two meanings currently being stri=
ctly separated in the mind of <i>nintadni </i>will collide and conflict wit=
h each other if xorxe's proposal is applied.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left=
: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>&nbsp;=
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-l=
eft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


&gt; which is counterintuitive.<br>
<br>
-nai means what it is convenient for it to mean in the specific<br>
circumstances in which it is legal.<br>
<div><br>
--<br>
John Cowan &nbsp;<a href=3D"javascript:" target=3D"_blank" gdf-obfuscated-m=
ailto=3D"i7fYB2wgegMJ">co...@ccil.org</a> &nbsp; <a href=3D"http://www.ccil=
.org/~cowan" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ccil.org/~cowan</a><br>
</div>O beautiful for patriot's dream that sees beyond the years<br>
Thine alabaster cities gleam undimmed by human tears!<br>
America! America! &nbsp;God mend thine every flaw,<br>
Confirm thy soul in self-control, thy liberty in law!<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; --one of the verses not usually taught in U.S. =
schools<br>
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