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On Tuesday, July 9, 2013 8:19:57 PM UTC+4, Robin Powell wrote:
>
>
> I would like to define the defaults for {za'u} and {me'i} to be 
> "contextually specified, usually the current value for the thing 
> under discussion", rather than {pa}. 
>
> Two reasons: 
>
> 1.  {za'u} and {su'o} mean almost exactly the same thing as 
> currently defined, similarily {me'i} and {su'e}.  Freaking annoying. 
>
> 2.  Everybody uses them that way anyways; see {za'u re'u}, which is 
> very common, and has almost no meaning without this change: 
> http://corpus.lojban.org/corpus/search/za'ure'u?showall=y and 
> http://corpus.lojban.org/corpus/search/za'u%20re'u?showall=y 
>
> In addition, it would give me a clean way to say "I need more flour 
> for this cake", or whatever. 
>

Robin, we have already discussed them! See the old thread!
https://groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/FLCvifynA9M/discussion

What's wrong there? May be it's better to continue that thread ans ask new 
questions there?
Because for me it's a closed issue.
 

>
> -Robin 
>
> -- 
> http://intelligence.org/ :  Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. 
> .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u .e 
> lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e 
> lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni 
> li'u 
>

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<br><br>On Tuesday, July 9, 2013 8:19:57 PM UTC+4, Robin Powell wrote:<bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-l=
eft: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>I would like to define the defaults for {za'u} and {me'i} to be
<br>"contextually specified, usually the current value for the thing
<br>under discussion", rather than {pa}.
<br>
<br>Two reasons:
<br>
<br>1. &nbsp;{za'u} and {su'o} mean almost exactly the same thing as
<br>currently defined, similarily {me'i} and {su'e}. &nbsp;Freaking annoyin=
g.
<br>
<br>2. &nbsp;Everybody uses them that way anyways; see {za'u re'u}, which i=
s
<br>very common, and has almost no meaning without this change:
<br><a href=3D"http://corpus.lojban.org/corpus/search/za'ure'u?showall=3Dy"=
 target=3D"_blank">http://corpus.lojban.org/<wbr>corpus/search/za'ure'u?<wb=
r>showall=3Dy</a> and
<br><a href=3D"http://corpus.lojban.org/corpus/search/za'u%20re'u?showall=
=3Dy" target=3D"_blank">http://corpus.lojban.org/<wbr>corpus/search/za'u%20=
re'u?<wbr>showall=3Dy</a>
<br>
<br>In addition, it would give me a clean way to say "I need more flour
<br>for this cake", or whatever.
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Robin, we have already discussed them!=
 See the old thread!</div><div>https://groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/FLC=
vifynA9M/discussion</div><div><br></div><div>What's wrong there? May be it'=
s better to continue that thread ans ask new questions there?</div><div>Bec=
ause for me it's a closed issue.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc s=
olid;padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>-Robin
<br>
<br>--=20
<br><a href=3D"http://intelligence.org/" target=3D"_blank">http://intellige=
nce.org/</a> : &nbsp;Our last, best hope for a fantastic future.
<br>.i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u .e
<br>lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e
<br>lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakn=
i li'u
<br></blockquote>

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