Received: from mail-oa0-f58.google.com ([209.85.219.58]:40557) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UwtkU-0005CF-JE; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 05:44:03 -0700 Received: by mail-oa0-f58.google.com with SMTP id j1sf2130070oag.3 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 05:43:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:x-ct-class:x-ct-score:x-ct-refid:x-ct-spam :x-authority-analysis:x-cm-score:message-id:date:from:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=bToE4tKwG9c0WuG35zbD2pQ7RKn1sdMYpPpaKr6NOIE=; b=Khn9ohAw3CEwP6t+A8hCsoMN5ZFxKOuIiu+V7cKM2KIxC/BoCxhZFoTlN/qCsRzKDt N1+J2qJxukjv9Uuvm7iaDqV7AEwNGoFcPyj3r7N2n3jy3om60NKRiYcqOGbQIaAcXBM7 BPvV5sMOsUa5jTdNcY9RlFLdxVMNiSqmjlO19vcGKoDtJIt/Q5T1wUjXuF3S4tsoQqqb kI9Xmg1+2yhjKLd/R1FJAH1uTn6c+7OpYPLPmPFQU8I46MBHMwzHLI0onzpsnUnypTas 4ZZnJl6CY2+a+OSLiDTEi/fjNRs468mQCJ9WFkvmejxL2WAMX76fveeu/30G16PP2pvN 2KdQ== X-Received: by 10.49.4.136 with SMTP id k8mr944613qek.19.1373460232140; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 05:43:52 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.94.212 with SMTP id de20ls2865694qeb.44.gmail; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 05:43:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.236.91.173 with SMTP id h33mr16939282yhf.17.1373460231953; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 05:43:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastrmfepo103.cox.net (eastrmfepo103.cox.net. [68.230.241.215]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id s6si3589079qcy.0.2013.07.10.05.43.51 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 05:43:51 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 68.230.241.215 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of lojbab@lojban.org) client-ip=68.230.241.215; Received: from eastrmimpo209 ([68.230.241.224]) by eastrmfepo103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130710124351.MWOE3894.eastrmfepo103.cox.net@eastrmimpo209> for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 08:43:51 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([72.209.248.61]) by eastrmimpo209 with cox id ycjr1l0021LDWBL01cjruj; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 08:43:51 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020201.51DD5707.0067,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=EOnYJSlC c=1 sm=1 a=z9jnGXjs1dxvEuWvIXKNSw==:17 a=YsUzL_8ObRgA:10 a=xmHE3fpoGJwA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=8YJikuA2AAAA:8 a=W5GPudM67ocA:10 a=NAVgu2iP_mcETx0lbrIA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=z9jnGXjs1dxvEuWvIXKNSw==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <51DD5706.1010601@lojban.org> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 08:43:50 -0400 From: Robert LeChevalier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [bpfk] Fiat Attempt #2 References: In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 68.230.241.215 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of lojbab@lojban.org) smtp.mail=lojbab@lojban.org Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 1167 Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > I would like to define the defaults for {za'u} and {me'i} to be > "contextually specified, usually the current value for the thing > under discussion", rather than {pa}. > > Two reasons: > > 1. {za'u} and {su'o} mean almost exactly the same thing as > currently defined, similarily {me'i} and {su'e}. Freaking annoying. I don't see how they are the same. su'o is a small amount more than no, not pa. su'e is a an amount less than ro, not pa (pisu'e would be an amount less that pa). But since the cmavo list version of these cmavo does not indicate a default, I have no strong attachment to changing that default (which I presume Cowan added in CLL, but didn't carefully analyze the meaning of in doing so). lojbab -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.