Received: from mail-ie0-f191.google.com ([209.85.223.191]:42259) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Wxqa6-00024E-5o; Thu, 19 Jun 2014 21:37:51 -0700 Received: by mail-ie0-f191.google.com with SMTP id rl12sf724483iec.28 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2014 21:37:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:in-reply-to :user-agent:sender:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding; bh=yTwGYoLsgsksaHsig779j3s9aAlSbmuSFZWzrCPKTF4=; b=ED0cpGAAR9d0iivp+m+zRQejFSscXbs/XXR9o0Pl0vt+KCpFBDHcI9JjrZ32wDHxys b4Jc2v2dn4gEjBtHATae1txgRf00dbEwrjfRi1dcy7hMrKaznvXySlTRjomhmVoxbSES 2bOy++bT3692wFtrQ6AmCZNlU7Vsgs0xCj8duTL4iC/os/W4adsqhdtD/eQHIox++vDg NddBrEY+KzT2oJHVHO4mqYyI1bChlvxN1eaGEcO5K0c34bW6biy0nYKqYDcyGuU/9T6C 4WpA90m7Vbe0Y6D/TjDDNJofPN5u9aOjwJB93GEGcBO9Pcg8ZSptUwggTmGqFjsmetoM DI+w== X-Received: by 10.182.171.3 with SMTP id aq3mr855obc.33.1403239055651; Thu, 19 Jun 2014 21:37:35 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.42.195 with SMTP id q3ls365356obl.97.gmail; Thu, 19 Jun 2014 21:37:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.182.197.172 with SMTP id iv12mr429369obc.1.1403239055224; Thu, 19 Jun 2014 21:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from earth.ccil.org (earth.ccil.org. [192.190.237.11]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x7si1624593qcd.3.2014.06.19.21.37.35 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 19 Jun 2014 21:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: none (google.com: cowan@ccil.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) client-ip=192.190.237.11; Received: from cowan by earth.ccil.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WxqZy-0002nQ-JR for bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 00:37:34 -0400 Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 00:37:34 -0400 From: John Cowan To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [bpfk] Finishing the BPFK sections Message-ID: <20140620043733.GA7540@mercury.ccil.org> References: <5385B1E2.4000409@gmx.de> <5385B6C9.7080202@gmx.de> <20140618231316.GB856@mercury.ccil.org> <20140619235321.GF24620@mercury.ccil.org> <20140620010120.GI24620@mercury.ccil.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: cowan@ccil.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: cowan@ccil.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) smtp.mail=cowan@ccil.org Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 1261 Jorge Llamb=EDas scripsit: > But some objects do have an intrinsic up side and bottom side, otherwise > nothing could ever be upside down. So in this respect up/down is more lik= e > front/back and left/right than like north/south and east/west. But that's not the way above/below or up/down is actually used. Alice has an upper side and a lower side, but if she's standing on her head, the floor is still below her, not above her. We'd need separate FAhA to express "topwards of" and "bottomwards of" relations. > Well, are there any languages that don't work like English in this respec= t? I don't know. =20 --=20 John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan cowan@ccil.org I Hope, Sir, that we are not mutually Un-friended by this Difference which hath happened betwixt us. --Thomas Fuller, Appeal of Injured Innocence (1659) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= BPFK" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.