Received: from mail-vc0-f192.google.com ([209.85.220.192]:41123) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1WzGe8-0001SR-4P; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 19:39:45 -0700 Received: by mail-vc0-f192.google.com with SMTP id ij19sf1802209vcb.9 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 19:39:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-transfer-encoding:content-type; bh=HUPsn2AUG14Ji0zsE1FxgeKLCFnr+oNkbBQ0PMA97PY=; b=kr4s1tAem8LchESjBhOBrlWyJwDwJfNr7rGsH9Vb+XVvx/EUeXWHPXVLfdzNiia47i WdarU0tiA1woflFWujBO295GhNEA0DYYeRe115vRytdZd+QqSLDzutyVsfdDJJoWXN5o qEKkv9uaMtFx+4ktkBIEZWAXLiYburhnbjCGrOKLssHPox6UAv6Txz4yC9Dely3r0qd7 /CRSwWeSJdfUCAK/JNhCIyPVvOISRNkYIsdqIEkJLXApPqN5pCSJONqEILJj1h6fcfj6 Tsxu795JdL12qWex0KFCF6dAkEHPWx25d5nIghse9h6UVGGzAU2xgIx2wf329uxdOP2X yxZw== X-Received: by 10.50.153.48 with SMTP id vd16mr487465igb.12.1403577577456; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 19:39:37 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.117.7 with SMTP id ka7ls183776igb.32.gmail; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 19:39:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.43.134.65 with SMTP id ib1mr9403615icc.21.1403577577269; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 19:39:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com. [107.14.166.229]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id x7si559314qcd.3.2014.06.23.19.39.37 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 19:39:37 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: none (google.com: phma@bezitopo.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) client-ip=107.14.166.229; Received: from [98.122.190.249] ([98.122.190.249:46074] helo=leopard.ixazon.lan) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 28/61-00343-8E4E8A35; Tue, 24 Jun 2014 02:39:36 +0000 Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leopard.ixazon.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8665F4A6B for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 22:39:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [bpfk] Finishing the BPFK sections Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 22:39:29 -0400 Message-ID: <61052335.UbplUOkzvH@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.13 (Linux/3.13.0-24-generic; KDE/4.13.0; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <20140618231316.GB856@mercury.ccil.org> References: <5383A193.3010907@gmx.de> <20140618231316.GB856@mercury.ccil.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.130:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: phma@bezitopo.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) smtp.mail=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 1217 On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 19:13:16 John Cowan wrote: > The question here is, which way does the Moon face? My intuition says th= at > it faces the Earth, so "in front of the moon" means the same thing under > either interpretation. It makes sense to say that the Moon always faces the Earth, but there is=20 nothing outside the Earth always faces, except a geostationary satellite. S= o=20 which way does the Earth face? I'd say the Earth's nose is in the Bight of= =20 Benin, its right ear is in the Gal=E1pagos, and its neck is at the South Po= le.=20 That puts its glabella in Greenwich, where it is defined to be. I think that Lojban rules for assigning facing to objects that don't natura= lly=20 have it should be different from English rules. Pierre --=20 ve ka'a ro klaji la .romas. se jmaji --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= BPFK" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.