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[2607:f8b0:400d:c04::234]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fl6si16678qcb.0.2014.10.22.15.01.55 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 22 Oct 2014 15:01:55 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of durka42@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c04::234 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400d:c04::234; Received: by mail-qg0-x234.google.com with SMTP id q108so3161693qgd.25 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 15:01:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.83.203 with SMTP id j69mr1203108qgd.89.1414015315398; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 15:01:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [2607:f470:6:400d:3007:b919:100::] ([2607:f470:6:400d:815b:391b:71b0:ab45]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id o98sm26795qge.39.2014.10.22.15.01.54 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 22 Oct 2014 15:01:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 18:01:53 -0400 From: Alex Burka To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Message-ID: <6AA66553C57F4AF794DC7465F1D278A6@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20141020065022.GA16880@mercury.ccil.org> <406DE031529146F98E16F3924D26A384@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [bpfk] official cmavo form X-Mailer: sparrow 1.6.4 (build 1178) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: durka42@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of durka42@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c04::234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=durka42@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="54482951_7975e8ee_320" X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_bar: -- Content-Length: 5797 --54482951_7975e8ee_320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Just make 'em type 3, I would say, if we were to end up going this route --= they're just cognates with no recorded usage. marcrfiakre, salcrfiesta, di= jrtiatro (or marcrfi'akre, salcrfi'esta, dijrti'atro). =20 As for kuardicka'u (which doesn't show up in the corpus either), if we don'= t allow the "qu-" sound at all, it's going to be difficult to make a satisf= ying fu'ivla for "quark". The diabolical solution is just to use the wrong = hyphen and turn it back into a zi'evla: ku'andicka'u. Another solution woul= d be to reformulate it as a lujvo: ratslepaudicka'u, or something. mu'o mi'e la durka =20 On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas wrote: > =20 > =20 > On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas wrote: > > =20 > > Most of these can be fixed by changing CIV -> CI'V. The only ones that = can't be fixed that way are: 'fiakre', 'fiesta', 'kuadranta', 'tiatro'. > =20 > Actually, "ku'adranta" is fine, because "dranta" is a slinku'i so "ku'a" = stays put. 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Just make 'em type 3, I would say, if we were to end up= going this route -- they're just cognates with no recorded usage. marcrfia= kre, salcrfiesta, dijrtiatro (or marcrfi'akre, salcrfi'esta, dijrti'atro).

As for kuardicka'u (which doesn't= show up in the corpus either), if we don't allow the "qu-" sound at all, i= t's going to be difficult to make a satisfying fu'ivla for "quark". The dia= bolical solution is just to use the wrong hyphen and turn it back into a zi= 'evla: ku'andicka'u. Another solution would be to reformulate it as a lujvo= : ratslepaudicka'u, or something.

mu'o mi'e la dur= ka
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On Wednesday, October 22, 2014= at 5:47 PM, Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas wrote:

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