Received: from mail-qc0-f185.google.com ([209.85.216.185]:59660) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Xhx51-000546-Ad; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 01:52:18 -0700 Received: by mail-qc0-f185.google.com with SMTP id l6sf381967qcy.2 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 01:52:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=rFd/V5Tw+1j95Kp2IJbsksI9+WYVuDx9ckRx6wvxOTY=; b=Rab7OfXBQjZM8f6/uFkWYDpFr4IGMlf/QnW10KGIvjIBO/wtZam7h+17khgljZMg6F e3Mk+HONIZC/j0QH2TnuLep7/8Jex9pXQElWIDeqB1Oj0B9KT8u7PLW8xk8DhUX5WnJq 598KWkbzFc45UadIB3uvkpHPLU1b3NWZIr3ryPBgaClKXXx+C/aMX/jAXxd/oLovWruN 2rzwV6QChM/HBe9ql3q1FyT6quSoiFIHEtGaCXBA5CtwsPoS0QnvciFJctTtBcfjAUoe 26m7hbOa1m/AjbMXgoPC0moMRGtHVUiHmOTxdn1C1LhhKWyVS56R2Y582g8Fr0OXlAsb cYyw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=rFd/V5Tw+1j95Kp2IJbsksI9+WYVuDx9ckRx6wvxOTY=; b=QJhG4lAy/zOdPtpGHBPwLpbtjA+hdp5DdZAQM9sFT1fbDwSorGYrYSaqKT/4y5oVVO cB9bdU9XaRg/ybdnVYZhk5evYJIXFFK4gYrQrmbZSpOw5l15fe71YAfYYr+SC9Jd9CUg zYCN6pGh65QVLW/TNdowTWCRdVGOl6nL7QFzs8nr/FN5WqoJm2MHuj+rJEfk1dTrBRqe nVuev8dOehVXYIwnTInQ/VGwAcBmAI/to8xKThlwg+VfQbdkV04rTxKR8JlcbxjSfijb jk7AbyiRmVKDC+SPJviqD28mLzbyWl8yftxLMMoeIaQmewQMdOJdpUDCKzBHQZ/I60nF Zmtw== X-Received: by 10.140.88.70 with SMTP id s64mr125qgd.32.1414227124197; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 01:52:04 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.39.35 with SMTP id u32ls2044715qgu.64.gmail; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 01:52:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.19.208 with SMTP id 74mr467qgh.19.1414227124041; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 01:52:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 01:52:03 -0700 (PDT) From: mukti To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <33A9DB5129C54FFF85FCDD708B6909D8@gmail.com> <9c2066d4-8da6-48ec-9cfb-63f79ca42187@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [bpfk] camxes and syllabification in zi'evla MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: shunpiker@gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7_293845275.1414227123643" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 4252 ------=_Part_7_293845275.1414227123643 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Friday, October 24, 2014 6:44:58 PM UTC-3, xorxes wrote: > OK, I think I may have figured it out. The correct change was to: > consonantal-syllable <- consonant syllabic &(consonantal-syllable / > !nucleus onset) (consonant &spaces)? > Hopefully I got it right this time. Could you check again? > With this change, the non-parsing words are ... *jbovlaste cmevla:* klivlynd smanyjinkytoldu'evir *jbovlaste fu'ivla:* artmozaiko finprsinxnatfidai finprsinxnatfinai klaktno mastla mustlei postmo rartni sparknipofia venzla xipfne *non-jbovlaste (test corpus):* bangrtlingana banrtlingana banrtlinganu bongnanba gudjrati ingmeme ... which is to say xorxes' prediction, as amended by durka -- and with the exception of {runtngasnrproni}, which is accepted as a fu'ivla -- is correct. {klivlynd} and {smanyjinkytoldu'evir} seem to be failing due to faulty slinku'i detection, which durka has patched -- I'll apply his patch and run the batch one more time. mi'e la mukti mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_7_293845275.1414227123643 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Friday, October 24, 2014 6:44:58 PM UTC-3, xorxes wrote:
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OK, I think I may have figured it out. The correct c= hange was to:
   consonantal-syllable <- consonant s= yllabic &(consonantal-syllable / !nucleus onset) (consonant &spaces= )? 
Hopefu= lly I got it right this time. Could you check again?

With this change, the non-parsing words a= re ...

jbovlaste cmevla:
<= div>klivlynd
smanyjinkytoldu'evir

= jbovlaste fu'ivla:
artmozaiko
finprsinxnat= fidai
finprsinxnatfinai
klaktno
mastla
<= div>mustlei
postmo
rartni
sparknipofia
<= div>venzla
xipfne

non-jbovla= ste (test corpus):
bangrtlingana
banrtling= ana
banrtlinganu
bongnanba
gudjrati=
ingmeme

... which is to say xorxes'= prediction, as amended by durka -- and with the exception of {runtngasnrpr= oni}, which is accepted as a fu'ivla -- is correct.

{klivlynd} and {smanyjinkytoldu'evir} seem to be failing due to faulty sl= inku'i detection, which durka has patched -- I'll apply his patch and run t= he batch one more time.

mi'e la mukti mu'o

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