Received: from mail-wg0-f62.google.com ([74.125.82.62]:46985) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Xi3Xi-0007kB-5b; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 08:46:19 -0700 Received: by mail-wg0-f62.google.com with SMTP id x12sf215644wgg.17 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 08:46:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=DT70w1n8dGEpH7r7nVwK02IpXiNf0U0a9kYd1CjRv8o=; b=DON8Wb0JE1GLTNdOqI8o9uRDcySDA0sfR6Znp/73KhdCgcESTmLzogo7dKjXAarubW jWDQi7pxlrhp7rHXxyvdYqk6T+Qwvp/TaFxpOz0rAsYYUHyou8TJLPPl1JVs28G3Pe0h WnDdcdx0R9Hxcoee8A77UWZr8H/wK/IfHrKl/9lrW0RoSJXGzpsR/MeG5/CLcIfgw0Ix vKf0v7H+o2rO0acz9kQLxRiwIEz2hNINohhAlBjMWPrtU/olMF8O6KeXFMAzrvUfUKiu //1USpfGQhnHptfCKA4Ah0GIPpk1S3OZjG0PTLce43I6kQLuwXXI2pVVWCSK7Iyt+ioc h4mg== X-Received: by 10.152.18.137 with SMTP id w9mr775lad.9.1414251967094; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 08:46:07 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.5.99 with SMTP id r3ls529394lar.73.gmail; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 08:46:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.152.25.202 with SMTP id e10mr3634187lag.2.1414251966307; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 08:46:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wg0-x22d.google.com (mail-wg0-x22d.google.com. [2a00:1450:400c:c00::22d]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id dy7si256825wib.0.2014.10.25.08.46.06 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 25 Oct 2014 08:46:06 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::22d as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c00::22d; Received: by mail-wg0-f45.google.com with SMTP id l18so2868528wgh.28 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 08:46:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.133.229 with SMTP id pf5mr12317809wjb.73.1414251966204; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 08:46:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.217.105.201 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 08:46:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20141025153624.GA1727@mercury.ccil.org> References: <33A9DB5129C54FFF85FCDD708B6909D8@gmail.com> <9c2066d4-8da6-48ec-9cfb-63f79ca42187@googlegroups.com> <20141025153624.GA1727@mercury.ccil.org> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 12:46:06 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] camxes and syllabification in zi'evla From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jorge_Llamb=C3=ADas?= To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::22d as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0122884c11939b050641329d X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 3020 --089e0122884c11939b050641329d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 12:36 PM, John Cowan wrote= : > Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas scripsit: > > > artmxozaiko > > kaktnxo > > mastlxa > > etc. etc. > > These words are far worse than their x-less equivalents. Better to > reformulate > the grammar to allow art-mo-zai-ko. I see that as a feature, not a problem. The syllable "-art-" may look fine to English speakers, but it's unlojbanic, lojban only allows single consonant codas. "ar,tm,xo,zai,ko" is horrible, of course, consonantal syllables should be avoided. Why not better make it "larmozaiko"? mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= BPFK" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --089e0122884c11939b050641329d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 12:36 PM, John Cowan <cowan@mercury.ccil.= org> wrote:
Jorge Llamb=C3= =ADas scripsit:

> artmxozaiko
> kaktnxo
> mastlxa

etc. etc.

These words are far worse than their x-less equivalents.=C2=A0 Better to re= formulate
the grammar to allow art-mo-zai-ko.

I see t= hat as a feature, not a problem. The syllable "-art-" may look fi= ne to English speakers, but it's unlojbanic, lojban only allows single = consonant codas. "ar,tm,xo,zai,ko" is horrible, of course, conson= antal syllables should be avoided. Why not better make it "larmozaiko&= quot;?

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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