Received: from mail-qa0-f58.google.com ([209.85.216.58]:34728) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Xi3eC-0007qi-NS; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 08:53:04 -0700 Received: by mail-qa0-f58.google.com with SMTP id j7sf509890qaq.23 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 08:52:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:in-reply-to :user-agent:sender:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=oylj6GwY5BkWnolof9cCv9tZNST42G4SDrDUYI1DhHs=; b=VmZHNy6ITme12MTrEmfFcNRB5EufMEeBHwSJeJfZY9e4EcQd5xER7ADrSc0oyWuWVU yzrbH+I3s/x2ZAKyw1mHwc0uOccD9J9iCxivt824LMdB1VmQyyWmDSAxiLLzZZkmI2ca WDlm16E/kEzSrl5Ts0ljQ1sPE/Lb7/5bcpSEjrQqlg7hNF3o/+imIfSsMXTcFlPWCcHr AbVQ1V4L09VGcDV3MujKZ01ijBgO5T2ENrPRf4he8JIJ956L/E0Xz8sG7KJXwbuNVvu4 7/771BvidvdO8E2UqC62qnKUqgJqojjlacM5Wwb/eJ2ne3pxUsFKd+m9qrmwfNBXODll vYUA== X-Received: by 10.140.34.211 with SMTP id l77mr11796qgl.7.1414252369880; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 08:52:49 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.31.163 with SMTP id f32ls2107059qgf.39.gmail; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 08:52:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.236.207.136 with SMTP id n8mr13978053yho.5.1414252369732; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 08:52:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from earth.ccil.org (earth.ccil.org. [192.190.237.11]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g10si348558igg.0.2014.10.25.08.52.49 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 25 Oct 2014 08:52:49 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of cowan@ccil.org designates 192.190.237.11 as permitted sender) client-ip=192.190.237.11; Received: from cowan by earth.ccil.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Xi3e5-0003BL-0Q for bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 11:52:49 -0400 Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 11:52:48 -0400 From: John Cowan To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [bpfk] camxes and syllabification in zi'evla Message-ID: <20141025155248.GC1727@mercury.ccil.org> References: <33A9DB5129C54FFF85FCDD708B6909D8@gmail.com> <9c2066d4-8da6-48ec-9cfb-63f79ca42187@googlegroups.com> <20141025153624.GA1727@mercury.ccil.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: cowan@ccil.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of cowan@ccil.org designates 192.190.237.11 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=cowan@ccil.org Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 1270 Gleki Arxokuna scripsit: > Why {mastra} is a fine brivla but {mastla} should not be (morphological > classes apart)? Well, "tl" is not a valid syllable onset, and planet-wide, languages prefer simpler codas than onsets. (I say "planet-wide" because Klingon is an exception.) Now there is nothing difficult about "mast-la", but our parsers are set up to accept two consonants in the coda only if they have to. I think that's an unnecessary limitation, as if "mast-la" were simpler than "mast-xla". -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan cowan@ccil.org One of the oil men in heaven started a rumor of a gusher down in hell. All the other oil men left in a hurry for hell. As he gets to thinking about the rumor he had started he says to himself there might be something in it after all. So he leaves for hell in a hurry. --Carl Sandburg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.