Received: from mail-la0-f61.google.com ([209.85.215.61]:34620) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Xi3nn-0007x6-3s; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 09:02:59 -0700 Received: by mail-la0-f61.google.com with SMTP id gq15sf384585lab.6 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 09:02:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=IBUt3OiDDY4dyWhBY2/qJ4hnVO5eCNvlabksOfK7jhQ=; b=hHRB/iZJjp+pyLfyTca5EEkwrX0UkZGefjP1IiHFXgWNGezOFYBf/6szU+qP5m3a6A ppzBnA01EgxUGu+57bUIvwA8QGYmvxUvCEaVfPGAqp3m/a1mXRkl/H+dyjOzdl0OePXo uqDNrD/mrDrSDnC99aQJ7xGRdspI+g3+m3DS604nUsiNsF1EH6Otx5EbKUlu8g2pDbTP yU6awU+o9/+8ebvT9YoaN81gJ23139K2nTXT7VffyO3BUURavk0e1n2yT4F71oRQrB/B h++VfCBYUkPhQpPFm5sYeOL1bZfX2ErwBmXYZOa8nlDm5oxShy37/dtDiGqu6jSwzbyw ZLyA== X-Received: by 10.152.21.39 with SMTP id s7mr188271lae.4.1414252963764; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 09:02:43 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.27.129 with SMTP id t1ls500436lag.53.gmail; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 09:02:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.152.27.38 with SMTP id q6mr510364lag.5.1414252963027; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 09:02:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x231.google.com (mail-wi0-x231.google.com. [2a00:1450:400c:c05::231]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v2si256008wix.1.2014.10.25.09.02.43 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 25 Oct 2014 09:02:43 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::231 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::231; Received: by mail-wi0-x231.google.com with SMTP id ex7so3372259wid.4 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 09:02:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.20.162 with SMTP id o2mr731806wie.57.1414252962934; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 09:02:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.217.105.201 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 09:02:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20141025155248.GC1727@mercury.ccil.org> References: <33A9DB5129C54FFF85FCDD708B6909D8@gmail.com> <9c2066d4-8da6-48ec-9cfb-63f79ca42187@googlegroups.com> <20141025153624.GA1727@mercury.ccil.org> <20141025155248.GC1727@mercury.ccil.org> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 13:02:42 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] camxes and syllabification in zi'evla From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jorge_Llamb=C3=ADas?= To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::231 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf306848c97a779d0506416d5e X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 3517 --20cf306848c97a779d0506416d5e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 12:52 PM, John Cowan wrote: > > Now there is nothing difficult about "mast-la", but our parsers are set up > to accept two consonants in the coda only if they have to. camxes won't accept two consonants in the coda at all. cmevla aside, that is. In cmevla pretty much anything goes, even something like .ktktkptkp. is a valid cmevla now. But it's not a jbocmevla. jbocmevla has to consist of valid syllables, and the only exception for codas in cmevla is at the end of the word and it must have syllabic+consonant form. > I think that's > an unnecessary limitation, as if "mast-la" were simpler than "mast-xla". camxes accepts neither. It does accept mas-tl-xa, because of the syllabic "tl". mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --20cf306848c97a779d0506416d5e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 12:52 PM, John Cowan <cowan@mercury.ccil.= org> wrote:

Now there is nothing difficult about "mast-la", but our parsers a= re set up
to accept two consonants in the coda only if they have to.=C2=A0

camxes won't accept two consonants in the coda a= t all.=C2=A0

cmevla aside, that is. In cmevla pret= ty much anything goes, even something like .ktktkptkp. is a valid cmevla no= w. But it's not a jbocmevla. jbocmevla has to consist of valid syllable= s, and the only exception for codas in cmevla is at the end of the word and= it must have syllabic+consonant form.
=C2=A0
I think that's
an unnecessary limitation, as if "mast-la" were simpler than &quo= t;mast-xla".

camxes accepts neither. I= t does accept mas-tl-xa, because of the syllabic "tl".
=
mu'o mi'e xorxes
=C2=A0
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