Received: from mail-ig0-f191.google.com ([209.85.213.191]:40162) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Xftxs-0000FV-QT; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 10:08:28 -0700 Received: by mail-ig0-f191.google.com with SMTP id h3sf658234igd.28 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 10:08:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:in-reply-to :user-agent:sender:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=yV9qMSNfZHhwCWwNcmDdgNNYTsFq6MygapspPypWy2U=; b=pxchB2GY1KL3jRRxajbBt/5ZoHjPZQ6BM4J2Z4ats67xb4A1EJk3zBFQ/cD0bXCTho hnc5P+HgxrWicVyHOwnLPpU7jy84dvuEKtnL2wE9iBtpXEaPylkmyIXrGyHOt3RRz5GR P8wwmMP3f1pnS1udR1MXD2pRXujZk2Uko4lGLE6rd0NKxI3rmCbpOdm1YAdlpmeZq14o cWqQV3CWjTKv1Lm0+ZtFVB1brDFiI9zkfPo1a0Kr3ZzaVxNsEA0EA+wjp6ljNXKLisDY BMAuVeOrgw74iWDFGs3CbudzFiTIWU7r0Sr5KFok8etrVz8srt+u5/3YdkekbrLK4Ab8 3o8Q== X-Received: by 10.140.44.5 with SMTP id f5mr348486qga.2.1413738494066; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 10:08:14 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.31.8 with SMTP id e8ls1835276qge.37.gmail; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 10:08:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.52.17.170 with SMTP id p10mr14764015vdd.6.1413738493446; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 10:08:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from earth.ccil.org (earth.ccil.org. [192.190.237.11]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 19si384467igl.2.2014.10.19.10.08.10 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 19 Oct 2014 10:08:10 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of cowan@ccil.org designates 192.190.237.11 as permitted sender) client-ip=192.190.237.11; Received: from cowan by earth.ccil.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Xftxg-0002V2-Os for bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 13:08:08 -0400 Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 13:08:08 -0400 From: John Cowan To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [bpfk] {ro}, existential import and De Morgan Message-ID: <20141019170808.GJ12991@mercury.ccil.org> References: <20141018011419.GF12268@mercury.ccil.org> <97AABFB42A204E5D97A4EDFEA57A8508@gmail.com> <20141019012930.GF12991@mercury.ccil.org> <676B49242B0D4F6A986D6AFEA1EB3B3C@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <676B49242B0D4F6A986D6AFEA1EB3B3C@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: cowan@ccil.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of cowan@ccil.org designates 192.190.237.11 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=cowan@ccil.org Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 1107 Alex Burka scripsit: > Ok, so just to clarify what you were correcting, with importing {ro} > you would say {ro broda cu brode} and {ro da poi broda cu brode} are > the same thing and require {su'o da broda}, while {ro da ganai broda > gi brode} is different and just requires a non-empty universe? Right. The difference is between restricted and unrestricted quantification. -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan cowan@ccil.org Lope de Vega: "It wonders me I can speak at all. Some caitiff rogue did rudely yerk me on the knob, wherefrom my wits yet wander." An Englishman: "Ay, belike a filchman to the nab'll leave you crank for a spell." --Harry Turtledove, Ruled Britannia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.