Received: from mail-ie0-f191.google.com ([209.85.223.191]:47535) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XgDVF-0000G3-K4; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 07:00:12 -0700 Received: by mail-ie0-f191.google.com with SMTP id rd18sf878697iec.18 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 06:59:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:in-reply-to :user-agent:sender:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=C7U8yOJtpOGgDJMWHNiU1tqIkGCi67SyOyacpdubuJs=; b=yHknmkSUt+BlWm+nNdBsOJVzp5e0gvcuSQR9A+2zYNWOltm6+VNJziOO8iZmQy4jIO RXSUnokCO6HDCiY95F56I/PUCPKFM/2rs9mDvQXogjP7YuAbGBuhXrH5Eip6XK2trlVv lzH8au/OScIrTF61CoxxsSSrtGfBkHUFWgg1L0i1r4uS14X3pWSCRgf0Q1+vtA0oD0cb SSg75wjRyblDXdLrqBBYv4dAapY3Yaezcbtijc6/Y5dPW6tOirnfFEkeEiBq0r5EhcnY UbDcm523bkUw84ejhzqdkEmx1O70GyVss1G45n4gxrkVhxilIc1svNfbH+jCTmyF8CuD FoBA== X-Received: by 10.50.77.67 with SMTP id q3mr178772igw.13.1413813598011; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 06:59:58 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.78.234 with SMTP id e10ls654458igx.25.canary; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 06:59:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.66.253.161 with SMTP id ab1mr17958504pad.29.1413813597774; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 06:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from earth.ccil.org (earth.ccil.org. [192.190.237.11]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hz7si554647igb.2.2014.10.20.06.59.57 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 20 Oct 2014 06:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of cowan@ccil.org designates 192.190.237.11 as permitted sender) client-ip=192.190.237.11; Received: from cowan by earth.ccil.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1XgDV6-00025S-MZ for bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 09:59:56 -0400 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 09:59:56 -0400 From: John Cowan To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [bpfk] official cmavo form Message-ID: <20141020135956.GC14499@mercury.ccil.org> References: <5444FEBF.10200@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5444FEBF.10200@gmx.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: cowan@ccil.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of cowan@ccil.org designates 192.190.237.11 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=cowan@ccil.org Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_bar: -- Content-Length: 1298 selpa'i scripsit: > My personal position is that I definitely would want to disallow any > CiV where C is a sibilant (e.g. ?{sia}) or a dental (e.g. ?{tia}) > [1], because they tend to degenerate into simpler forms over time > (e.g. {ca} and {tca} respectively) and are hard to distiniguish for > many people. I would ban them in any word, not just in cmavo. That is exactly why Lojban Central banned them by construction back in 1988 (they existed and still exist in Loglan). -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan cowan@ccil.org Nobody expects the RESTifarian Inquisition! Our chief weapon is surprise ... surprise and tedium ... tedium and surprise .... Our two weapons are tedium and surprise ... and ruthless disregard for unpleasant facts.... Our three weapons are tedium, surprise, and ruthless disregard ... and an almost fanatical devotion to Roy Fielding.... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.