Received: from mail-wg0-f57.google.com ([74.125.82.57]:37389) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XgKjU-0004Jn-Ea; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 14:43:24 -0700 Received: by mail-wg0-f57.google.com with SMTP id a1sf461534wgh.12 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 14:43:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=A+zYMvfxJyQVrH/rhuH4ARqk0psraxgRs3vHkBN3Xxo=; b=tlIQj/nqD0tSwlkFeap+Y/eXgblf8etHKoGM3dIkpP+wzsUj89wK6+2XtVhjMnGdrk uqG7gNRnqAtv1Mx/g9L9UO+BCfSmnH22m1HgduzlEaqPoUQ04fXKjI7gaHLSybScMqNc cBHDYE3Rkf8Ckbw873ZifKpSH2TbztnRePLAQprplnQAeFkbPDpz7WxKomcQ4CMX73TL DM59FOyIB0Hyshj0680QcAdAc9MYkXcEnvtvWFLSm1c+Myphr7H5ZY5brJi9TxZzByvF u9vfOrf+g4xA7+1vrYjwaS5/McgumgbqYXHQsddheTLzxUk20HOEpAUvk7rped6CiGNq pxUw== X-Received: by 10.152.203.229 with SMTP id kt5mr25686lac.32.1413841388894; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 14:43:08 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.3.170 with SMTP id d10ls459622lad.75.gmail; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 14:43:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.152.4.165 with SMTP id l5mr1609656lal.4.1413841388086; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 14:43:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x232.google.com (mail-wi0-x232.google.com. [2a00:1450:400c:c05::232]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u2si453549wiw.0.2014.10.20.14.43.08 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 20 Oct 2014 14:43:08 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::232 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::232; Received: by mail-wi0-f178.google.com with SMTP id r20so196015wiv.5 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 14:43:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.235.132 with SMTP id um4mr4188007wjc.91.1413841387932; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 14:43:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.217.105.201 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 14:43:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <544507CD.9050608@gmail.com> References: <5444FEBF.10200@gmx.de> <544507CD.9050608@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 18:43:07 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] official cmavo form From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jorge_Llamb=C3=ADas?= To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::232 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e01419f50b250ef0505e19980 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 3341 --089e01419f50b250ef0505e19980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 10:02 AM, And Rosta wrote: > > Why must Lojban have onsets and syllabification? /Cia/ is problematic only > if /Ci-/ must constitute an onset. There's no special need to realize /Cia/ as one syllable, but it must be counted as one syllable for penultimate stress rule purposes. Formulating the rule without mentioning syllables would be more complicated. It also has to be distinguished from "ciia" I see no problems with {ie'o} as a cmavo form. >> > > How about {a'ua}? "a'ua" is currently not allowed by camxes, but "a'uua" is (it's two words) mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --089e01419f50b250ef0505e19980 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 10:02 AM, And Rosta <and.rosta@gmail.com= > wrote:

<= /span> Why must Lojban have onsets and syllabification? /Cia/ is problematic only = if /Ci-/ must constitute an onset.

There= 9;s no special need to realize /Cia/ as one syllable, but it must be counte= d as one syllable for penultimate stress rule purposes. Formulating the rul= e without mentioning syllables would be more complicated. It also has to be= distinguished from "ciia"

I see no problems with {ie'o} as a cmavo form.

How about {a'ua}?

"a'ua" = is currently not allowed by camxes, but "a'uua" is (it's = two words)

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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