On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 8:32 PM, And Rosta <and.rosta@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:

On 20 Oct 2014 22:43, "Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas" <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote= :
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> There's no special need to realize /Cia/ as one syllable, but it m= ust be counted as one syllable for penultimate stress rule purposes.

How come? Is it simply that because word-segmentation= is sensitive to stress, and stress is sensitive to syllabicity, varisyllab= icity risks undermining the consistency of the word-segmentation rules? If = so, the stress or word-segmentation rules can be reformulated so that VV co= unts as a single metrical unit rather than a sequence of two.
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> Formulating the rule without mentioning syllables would= be more complicated.

It's not yet clear to me that that is so, but tha= t could be because I don't know the rule.

Maybe not terribly more complicated, but at least somewhat more comp= licated. y-syllables are already exceptions to penultimate stress, as are c= onsonantal syllables and buffer-vowel syllables, so this would be just one = more exception.
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> It also has to be distinguished from "ciia"
How come? Is "ciia" licit? Is it licit even= if "cia" isn't?
Yes, there's no con= straint against vowel i being followed by glide i.

> "a'ua" is currently not allowed by camxes, but "a&#= 39;uua" is (it's two words)

Ah. So the two-word version needn't be "a= 9;u.ua"? I had been thin= king that all words must begin with a consonant.

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Since it causes no ambiguity, camxes doesn't force a glottal = stop/pause before a word that begins with a glide. But this need not happen= at a word boundary: "braka'uua" is a valid fu'ivla.

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I would allow "a'ua" (assuming I was not allow= ed to kill /'/), disallow "uu", and have all words begin with= a consonant, but if "a'uua" must be a variant of "a'= ;u.ua" then I see why &q= uot;a'ua" must be forbidden.

Y= es, it should be one or the other, but not both.

m= u'o mi'e xorxes

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