On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 10:32 AM, And Rosta <and.rosta@gmail.com= > wrote:

<= /span> A very precise specification of the what, but not so clear on the why. Are = there rationales other than "Because CLL says so"? And if that is= the only rationale, and the rules could be drastically simplified without = invalidating any existing lexis, why not simplify the rules? (Given that an= yway the CLL rules are plainly not complete and fully specified.)

CLL doesn't get in too much detail about syllabl= es, but yes, it's based on CLL rules, with some modifications here and = there. The underlying idea is that cmavo/gismu/lujvo are the core words of = the language, and so fu'ivla should sound as much as possible like them= .=C2=A0
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There are 18 valid (morphological) codas: the 17 consonants and the empty c= oda.

I guess it's at least 17, because each of the 17 Cs can occur word-medi= ally before another C that it can't occur word-initially before?

I don't understand the question.=C2=A0

Does CLL forbid CC codas? I guess this would be in fu'ivla. So /artsta/= is not a valid fu'ivla, say?

CLL doesn= 't forbid them, and it may even have some examples with CC codas. CLL w= ould accept "artsta", with syllables art-sta but camxes will reje= ct it.

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All words (except for cmevl= a) consist of a sequence of valid syllables.

Is this from CLL?

No, CLL doesn't q= uite put it that way.
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If the constraints apply only to words of certain classes, then the constra= ints are almost certainly morphophonological and not phonological in nature= .
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Originally camxes applied the constrain= ts to cmevla as well, but now cmevla are divided into "jbocme" wh= ich consist of regular syllables, and "zifcme" in which pretty mu= ch anything goes. Although not anything at all: .prtkfmgjdglgl. is a valid = cmevla, but .emzis. is still forbidden. It's crazy, and it's not my= preference, but that's how it is now.

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Just the former. I = would not want to categorize "poktpftcu" for
example as a valid word.

But is that for any reason other than habit?

Probably not. It just doesn't look like lojban to me.=C2=A0

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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