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[151.226.41.45]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id u4sm8731036wiy.9.2014.10.26.08.55.41 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 26 Oct 2014 08:55:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <544D197D.5000709@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 15:55:41 +0000 From: And Rosta User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120711 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [bpfk] camxes and syllabification in zi'evla References: <33A9DB5129C54FFF85FCDD708B6909D8@gmail.com> <9c2066d4-8da6-48ec-9cfb-63f79ca42187@googlegroups.com> <20141025153624.GA1727@mercury.ccil.org> <544BF508.3060500@gmail.com> <24AD03E6AEA1476F9B53E0EE111750E9@gmail.com> <544BF94F.3040204@gmail.com> <544CB576.2070503@gmail.com> <544CF7D1.9050300@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: and.rosta@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of and.rosta@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::22e as permitted sender) smtp.mail=and.rosta@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 1639 Jorge Llamb=EDas, On 26/10/2014 13:58: =20 > On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 10:32 AM, And Rosta > wrote: > There are 18 valid (morphological) codas: the 17 consonants and t= he empty coda. > > > I guess it's at least 17, because each of the 17 Cs can occur word-me= dially before another C that it can't occur word-initially before? > > > I don't understand the question. Is it the case that each of the 17 Cs can occur at the start of a cluster t= hat is licit in the middle of a word but not at the start of a word. Unrelatedly, what's the basis for allowing CCC onsets? Does CLL expressly l= icence CCC in fu'ivla? The licitness of CCC onsets can't be derived from gi= smu, lujvo, cmavo. And does CLL forbid CCCC onsets in fu'ivla? (I'm being l= azy, here, aren't I. If that's annoying, do remonstrate with me and I'll se= arch online before asking.) > Just the former. I would not want to categorize "poktpftcu" for > example as a valid word. > > But is that for any reason other than habit? > > Probably not. It just doesn't look like lojban to me. If you're describing rather than defining the language, then that's okay, I= suppose. --And. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= BPFK" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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