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And Rosta scripsit:

> Really six vowels rather than seven? What about the buffer vowel. 

That's one of the things that should have been left out.  In Loglan,
there were two dialects: in one, /y/ was realized as [@] and no buffer
was permitted; in the other, /y/ was realized as [j@] and all other
instances of [@] were epenthetic.  JCB actually required that in the
second dialect [@] be inserted at *all* points; however, no one ever
did that as far as anyone knows.

> (FWIW I'd have given /y/ the normative value [y] and /%/ the normative
> value [@], swapping the values when the phonemes are adjacent to
> /i, u/.)

Vocalic consonants were first introduced, I think to serve the role of /y/.
In post-split Loglan they came to be written doubled and to be treated
morphologically as consonant pairs (thus "ammata" is a valid brivla
whereas "amata" falls apart into "a ma ta").

But I wouldn't be happy with a front rounded vowel, given how rare they are
(as phonemes) in the world's languages.

-- 
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