Received: from mail-ee0-f55.google.com ([74.125.83.55]:41695) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XnUhz-0005zJ-Ik; Sun, 09 Nov 2014 07:47:25 -0800 Received: by mail-ee0-f55.google.com with SMTP id e51sf714508eek.10 for ; Sun, 09 Nov 2014 07:47:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=dl8zHdzAkG+EPSL0lzu934YeT/lfCDMEhAbFjhTqXK0=; b=JaUDhkHhE/4/g1gwQ2lGbPw+SFtfyPxIEaoFUe4KK3vkqxClAngXFJ6yfYtCWe2QV8 BAZmOCv53JCajxvRmXVLNCgntGWEoF/1fmPVAF95W8Pbei02vd1mB1Uj0NgVoeN5ELJr 42t0O3wCgL6YUaFOWtkdVUOYa11vqQ/4X7wB/Oe1fi+3o0EZEPuR1QIep3Z+hxAWYm0i H1u9jU4qdIX39VuD7RzCLqT2Q7W0TWuSPWGGcZPotBDdUM6ZsiYs+XuR9zjHmSSFmcct PJrHvCCyZw7cpZOiInPbJQImq6OkoSknGnAZYKf5WWm18YTjT7uFE5UrmbzbCIG/hdLZ 3PTg== X-Received: by 10.152.7.100 with SMTP id i4mr358215laa.1.1415548032470; Sun, 09 Nov 2014 07:47:12 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.206.104 with SMTP id ln8ls377319lac.22.gmail; Sun, 09 Nov 2014 07:47:11 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.152.42.171 with SMTP id p11mr4234831lal.4.1415548031759; Sun, 09 Nov 2014 07:47:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wg0-x232.google.com (mail-wg0-x232.google.com. [2a00:1450:400c:c00::232]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ta1si438240wic.0.2014.11.09.07.47.11 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 09 Nov 2014 07:47:11 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::232 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c00::232; Received: by mail-wg0-x232.google.com with SMTP id z12so7052359wgg.37 for ; Sun, 09 Nov 2014 07:47:11 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.59.81 with SMTP id x17mr34094915wjq.91.1415548031673; Sun, 09 Nov 2014 07:47:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.217.105.201 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 07:47:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20141109153748.GD4868@mercury.ccil.org> References: <544CB576.2070503@gmail.com> <544CF7D1.9050300@gmail.com> <544D197D.5000709@gmail.com> <20141109033347.GO6360@mercury.ccil.org> <49D423038AB048B3832946E4D73A58D8@gmail.com> <20141109055359.GA4868@mercury.ccil.org> <20141109153748.GD4868@mercury.ccil.org> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 12:47:11 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] camxes and syllabification in zi'evla From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jorge_Llamb=C3=ADas?= To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::232 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7ba979d2972c1505076ef5f7 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 3428 --047d7ba979d2972c1505076ef5f7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 12:37 PM, John Cowan wrote: > Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas scripsit: > > > That was the idea, yes. In fact only Cyr and Cyn. The -l- hyphen would > now > > never be needed, since the final consonant of the rafsi becomes > irrelevant > > for the choice of hyphen and so -yr- works for all cases except when th= e > > fu'ivla proper begins with r. > > I was actually thinking of something more radical: replace all syllabic > consonants with yC throughout the language. OK, the effect would be the same, since outside of cmevla the only syllabic consonants that could survive would be the type-3 fu'ivla hyphens (the rest would have to go because fu'ivla can't have y). In cmevla camxes already allows y-syllables with codas. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= BPFK" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --047d7ba979d2972c1505076ef5f7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 12:37 PM, John Cowan <cowan@mercury.ccil.o= rg> wrote:
Jorge Llamb=C3= =ADas scripsit:

> That was the idea, yes. In fact only Cyr and Cyn. The -l- hyphen would= now
> never be needed, since the final consonant of the rafsi becomes irrele= vant
> for the choice of hyphen and so -yr- works for all cases except when t= he
> fu'ivla proper begins with r.

I was actually thinking of something more radical:=C2=A0 replace all= syllabic
consonants with yC throughout the language.=C2=A0

OK, the effect would be the same, since outside of cmevla the only s= yllabic consonants that could survive would be the type-3 fu'ivla hyphe= ns (the rest would have to go because fu'ivla can't have y). In cme= vla camxes already allows y-syllables with codas.=C2=A0

mu'o mi'e xorxes
=C2=A0

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