Received: from mail-la0-f57.google.com ([209.85.215.57]:65048) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XpEqt-0007Zr-Od; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 03:15:45 -0800 Received: by mail-la0-f57.google.com with SMTP id s18sf81526lam.2 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 03:15:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=MqQlB9nI1z8HcYkzQOCcARLPKq8Gvs2wJcsZhjOCfN8=; b=lGj2uSdPeVGD7BKvBeNnrYgQjEls6qcHR+5wsepryTqfUYcshN4hX+r9eZjHcV7q/X ZnXiojQ2ACHxeodSj1WqRCDirB9MUfsh/S1AezBDJWhuhP8rhAiFhcRR2OI25MrTGyWQ JzoZTFdD1FAZ67XokW21ZS4Tl6fpcHedhTsTGhi/Dtm3yk1lGyFYvI0aiDgrVD3DlAtD +V3nu94BjaCfMvyrZhitrmcYMe489XuPW6CQ8wucL+fcA7pEodhq+AdsJRiPVqNRDkK+ xC7nZIHD2TfQoeVqenURHIZX0LUCOzAG11G6L87hnZNyIc1sMkclqbgSvp8SV/bx4RET Jjkg== X-Received: by 10.152.88.43 with SMTP id bd11mr2945lab.24.1415963736240; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 03:15:36 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.8.227 with SMTP id u3ls700155laa.8.gmail; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 03:15:35 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.112.147.131 with SMTP id tk3mr4227452lbb.2.1415963735443; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 03:15:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lb0-x22b.google.com (mail-lb0-x22b.google.com. [2a00:1450:4010:c04::22b]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id sg7si1192828lbb.1.2014.11.14.03.15.35 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 14 Nov 2014 03:15:35 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c04::22b as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c04::22b; Received: by mail-lb0-f171.google.com with SMTP id b6so12639575lbj.16 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 03:15:35 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.21.9 with SMTP id r9mr1649486lae.76.1415963735334; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 03:15:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.70.111 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 03:15:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 08:15:35 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] brivla detection algorithm From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jorge_Llamb=C3=ADas?= To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c04::22b as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013d202475a55d0507cfbf4b X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 3116 --089e013d202475a55d0507cfbf4b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 4:19 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > Is there a simple algorithm for detecting valid brivla in general (without > specifying whether they are fu'ivla, gismu of lujvo) ? > > I mean such algorithm is supposed to be simpler than the current brivlakle > detection algorithm in the current PEG. > No, because of the slinku'i rule. The slinku'i rule means you need to examine the rafsi structure of your candidate form anyway, so determining whether it's a gismu, lujvo or fu'ivla is not much more complicated than determining whether it's a valid brivla. You can't avoid rafsi unfortunately. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --089e013d202475a55d0507cfbf4b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 4:19 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <<= a href=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gleki.is.my.= name@gmail.com> wrote:
Is there a simple algorithm for detecting valid brivla in= general (without specifying whether they are fu'ivla, gismu of lujvo) = ?=C2=A0

I mean such algorithm is supposed to be si= mpler than the current brivlakle detection algorithm in the current PEG.

No, because of the slinku'i r= ule. The slinku'i rule means you need to examine the rafsi structure of= your candidate form anyway, so determining whether it's a gismu, lujvo= or fu'ivla is not much more complicated than determining whether it= 9;s a valid brivla. You can't avoid rafsi unfortunately.

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