Received: from mail-wi0-f183.google.com ([209.85.212.183]:42907) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XpopL-0005C5-9J; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 17:40:34 -0800 Received: by mail-wi0-f183.google.com with SMTP id hi2sf283522wib.20 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 17:40:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Y7vDg8u7OJvVt8bLWvDPxsJKiq/K0Gnh9bOHg/ej4lE=; b=YPcPZhOIbAx5iWtShk/xCWmri0yfJ8phkahTPwXhNYPl0C9aFXWV2EC/tpuMn/s1bW hw6c65EJb4oEz1TcMcHUON/pum9GpqaupgrG1yh4+a/zwOAHi+etcKGELyi34zKT/zSV eRc1HzxeNCoA33SmlKkphltdsWEY6+n5DElpyILYazwyt9DwoM/rDR/b9izf+97n8ytU N30teOBhL0fWjmEbBinbrPlmIJIf2j1mBBy62TiyV7dDH/NHBPl4/IGNrOfKZuWYJeIo mPXzjWb/7AsXIfC4FN+bxEmjwpTIr128TFmIxxsmMG/dDQA+pj3Gm3v/kf+IZJVW3TOn ft0A== X-Received: by 10.152.7.100 with SMTP id i4mr991136laa.1.1416102024639; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 17:40:24 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.19.227 with SMTP id i3ls830030lae.28.gmail; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 17:40:24 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.112.199.167 with SMTP id jl7mr778157lbc.5.1416102024131; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 17:40:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lb0-x22f.google.com (mail-lb0-x22f.google.com. [2a00:1450:4010:c04::22f]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id sg7si1620540lbb.1.2014.11.15.17.40.24 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 15 Nov 2014 17:40:24 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c04::22f as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c04::22f; Received: by mail-lb0-f175.google.com with SMTP id n15so14349708lbi.6 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 17:40:24 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.147.225 with SMTP id tn1mr16705865lbb.37.1416102024042; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 17:40:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.70.111 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 17:40:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <0ECDA8252DB74B6A924A302A02D55629@gmail.com> <2B42884AD9984C369994567E68611980@gmail.com> <5676AB4A25B640DEB6EE877F655D9D77@gmail.com> <5467EDB6.6010304@gmx.de> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2014 22:40:23 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] extended rafsi and a tosmabru/slinku'i boondoggle From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jorge_Llamb=C3=ADas?= To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c04::22f as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3a8cf41be04e0507eff22a X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 4107 --047d7b3a8cf41be04e0507eff22a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas wrote: > > brivla <- !cmevla !cmavo !h &onset unstressed-syllable+ > stressed-syllable &post-word > I meant: brivla <- !cmevla !cmavo !h &onset unstressed-syllable* stressed-syllable unstressed-syllable &post-word That's penultimate stress. > That basically gives any valid string of syllables, with penultimate > stress, that either start with a cluster or with a cmavo form followed by= a > non-initial C/C, and ends with a vowel, Depending on how we want to go, > y-syllables and consonantal syllables could be allowed as well or not, It= 's > clear that all the complications of brivla morphology come from the rafsi > system. > > The cmavo rule would also be slightly simplified since it wouldn't have t= o > deal with the CVCy-lujvo exception. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= BPFK" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --047d7b3a8cf41be04e0507eff22a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas <jjllambias@g= mail.com> wrote:

=C2=A0= brivla <- !cmevla !cmavo !h &onset unstressed-syllable+ stressed-sy= llable &post-word

I meant:

=C2=A0brivla <- !cmevla !cmavo !h &= amp;onset unstressed-syllable* stressed-syllable unstressed-syllable &p= ost-word

That's penultimate stress.
<= div>=C2=A0
That basically gives any valid string of = syllables, with penultimate stress, that either start with a cluster or wit= h a cmavo form followed by a non-initial C/C, and ends with a vowel, Depend= ing on how we want to go, y-syllables and consonantal syllables could be al= lowed as well or not, It's clear that all the complications of brivla m= orphology come from the rafsi system.=C2=A0

The cm= avo rule would also be slightly simplified since it wouldn't have to de= al with the CVCy-lujvo exception.

mu'o mi'e xorxes


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