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[2a00:1450:400c:c00::22d]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h10si1004781wiw.2.2014.12.02.08.23.49 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 02 Dec 2014 08:23:49 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::22d as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c00::22d; Received: by mail-wg0-f45.google.com with SMTP id b13so17498436wgh.4 for ; Tue, 02 Dec 2014 08:23:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.150.148 with SMTP id ui20mr113378wjb.90.1417537428773; Tue, 02 Dec 2014 08:23:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.87.229 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Dec 2014 08:23:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <36BA0C99AB974E36BE0D758D5E80AF6B@gmail.com> References: <36BA0C99AB974E36BE0D758D5E80AF6B@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 19:23:48 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] BPFK Pages: DAhO From: Gleki Arxokuna To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e01175e21e5e0d805093e2654 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::22d as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 8643 --089e01175e21e5e0d805093e2654 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2014-12-02 18:55 GMT+03:00 Alex Burka : > Note: everything you pasted is from the "proposal to change {da'o}" > section, not its main definition. It's not clear to me how close the > proposal is to being implemented. > > On Tuesday, December 2, 2014 at 5:26 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > > http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Section%3A+Reference+Regulators > > *1) da'o is moved to selma'o UI. DAhO is almost UI anyway. * > > > > *3) da'inai means this: the variable da'onai is attached to retains its > assignment and all other variables are cleared. * > > This is a mistype. It should be {da'onai} > > Yep. > > > *4) da'oda'o means that all variables have their assignments cleared.* > > This contradicts with how UI work. This can no longer be UI or UI becomes > impractical from the viewpoint of parsers. > > > It's a semantics issue, not a parser issue. Seems fine to me. > Depends on what parser you are talking about. It create a new semantic class, the behavior of which is completely new and unique. That's what the problem. 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2014-12-02 18:55 GMT+03:00 Alex Burka <durka42@gmail.com>:
Note: everything you pasted is from the "proposal= to change {da'o}" section, not its main definition. It's not = clear to me how close the proposal is to being implemented.
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On Tuesday, December 2, 2014 at = 5:26 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote:

http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Section%3A+Reference+Regulators
1) da= 'o is moved to selma'o UI. DAhO is almost UI anyway.=C2=A0


3) da'inai= means this: the variable da'onai is attached to retains its assignment= and all other variables are cleared.=C2=A0
This is a mistype. It should be {da'onai}

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Yep.=C2=A0

4) da'oda'o means that all variables have their assig= nments cleared.
This contradicts with ho= w UI work. This can no longer be UI or UI becomes impractical from the view= point of parsers.

It's a semantics issue, not a parser issue. Seems fine = to me.=C2=A0

Depends on what parser y= ou are talking about.
It create a new semantic class, the behavio= r of which is completely new and unique. That's what the problem.
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It's better not to smash everything into one selma&= #39;o if they differ in behavior.

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