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[2a00:1450:400c:c00::22a]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ed6si2211286wib.3.2014.12.04.07.56.42 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 04 Dec 2014 07:56:42 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::22a as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c00::22a; Received: by mail-wg0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id z12so23219295wgg.15 for ; Thu, 04 Dec 2014 07:56:42 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.180.9.229 with SMTP id d5mr22422533wib.22.1417708602613; Thu, 04 Dec 2014 07:56:42 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.87.229 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Dec 2014 07:56:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 18:56:22 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] BPFK Section: Subordinators To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c2b9e0a7661b0509660101 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::22a as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 7512 --001a11c2b9e0a7661b0509660101 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2014-12-04 17:34 GMT+03:00 Alex Burka : > > On Thursday, December 4, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > > *po is often used for the standard sense of possession, i.e. physical or > legal ownership. It is essentially equivalent to poi traji lo ka ce'u ckini > ke'a vau fa.* > > {fa}? How can it be "equivalent"? Anyway why is it glossed as "specific > to" which hints at {steci}? > > As in {ko'a *po* ko'e} == {ko'a *poi traji lo ka ce'u ckini ke'a vau fa* > ko'e} == {ko'a poi ko'e traji lo ka ce'u ckini ke'a}. > How can you comment on such gloss as "specific"? > > *po'e is used for things like people's limbs or parental relationships or > other inalienable things. It is essentially equivalent to poi jinzi ke se > steci srana.* > > This tanru should be replaced with some no-tanru definition like xorxe's > {poi ke'a se jinzi le ka ce'u se steci le ka ce'u srana}. > > ie .i va'o lo nu no da pante kei mi baza stika > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "BPFK" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "BPFK" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. 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2014-12-04 17:34 GMT+03:00 Alex Burka <aburka@seas.upenn.edu&g= t;:

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On Thursday, December 4, 2014 at= 8:54 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote:

po is oft= en used for the standard sense of possession, i.e. physical or legal owners= hip. It is essentially equivalent to poi traji lo ka ce'u ckini ke'= a vau fa.

{fa}? How can it be &qu= ot;equivalent"? Anyway why is it glossed as "specific to" wh= ich hints at {steci}?
As in {ko'a po ko'e} =3D=3D {ko'a poi traji lo ka c= e'u ckini ke'a vau fa ko'e} =3D=3D {ko'a poi ko'e t= raji lo ka ce'u ckini ke'a}.=C2=A0

How can you comment on such gloss as "specific"?

po'e is us= ed for things like people's limbs or parental relationships or other in= alienable things. It is essentially equivalent to poi jinzi ke se steci sra= na.

This tanru should be replaced with some no= -tanru definition like xorxe's {poi ke'a se jinzi le ka ce'u se= steci le ka ce'u srana}.
ie .i va'o lo nu no da pante kei mi baza stika=C2=A0

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