Received: from mail-wg0-f55.google.com ([74.125.82.55]:54333) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Y0FBA-00008n-6c; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 11:50:10 -0800 Received: by mail-wg0-f55.google.com with SMTP id y19sf908690wgg.10 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 11:50:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=nYjyEDY3Kg4dag/mJpfzmiCZK2OuXd0OSSrgFKgJpoM=; b=X9yIbYPbpCfz5SgSh1OKFrDME0nPLFplSJOxX5AlRb8N1yuBSGy7MxgVoAK7+CvNmA /rtcp8g9NNqzrWIRXU+kvWNr7oXfVLVgWE8IUH933eAUHL2dnIrev7ALoDfqUCEwTMvC WEZ1gavgIq7DKG48ZDCQbck+bUY1y+PZMv5SPNJMBAqkvJMsepyp+BRRUmfa5iYPyHgr SYqBy/qJZY3P+2uiH0u1gvfTY3nsXm1ThxWVamPhHTO2EKjGpequufiFGbAPTjdpFJLd vQsC/Zke0n5DgZu4EddK4finOEM/kcaJABjIbFhIX9yPlibgtXmrqax7nlLrm6I5N8FT WPVw== X-Received: by 10.180.107.233 with SMTP id hf9mr89633wib.12.1418586601134; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 11:50:01 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.90.145 with SMTP id bw17ls541693wib.46.canary; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 11:50:00 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.180.85.72 with SMTP id f8mr2239560wiz.0.1418586600832; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 11:50:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lb0-x22b.google.com (mail-lb0-x22b.google.com. [2a00:1450:4010:c04::22b]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id oi7si662394lbb.1.2014.12.14.11.50.00 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 14 Dec 2014 11:50:00 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c04::22b as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c04::22b; Received: by mail-lb0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id w7so3916293lbi.16 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 11:50:00 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.41.168 with SMTP id g8mr26451172lbl.59.1418586600704; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 11:50:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.78.9 with HTTP; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 11:50:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <548AC3CB.7090403@gmx.de> <580B9AB84B34485AB4139B921C46CF42@gmail.com> <3ED463A548E74A53BD8F2ECEF0C620F8@gmail.com> <14FDADF47D7841A39D612894E81CC89B@gmail.com> <20141214025736.GB19927@mercury.ccil.org> <20141214184520.GB29313@mercury.ccil.org> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 16:50:00 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] official cmavo form From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jorge_Llamb=C3=ADas?= To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11345d766b1375050a326ee7 X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c04::22b as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 3838 --001a11345d766b1375050a326ee7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Alex Burka wrote: > > By the way, if I modify the "onset" rule from > > onset <- h / consonant? glide / initial > > to > > onset <- h / glide / initial > > This cuts out {saskrkuarka}, but {bangrblgaria} is saved by being parsed > as {ban,gr,bl,GAR,ia} (whereas with the current PEG it parses as > {ban,gr,bl,GA,ria}). > > Is this how we would do it, if we end up prohibiting some or all CgV, or > would it be more restrictive, like adding "!glide" at the end of the > "consonant" rule (which does kill both of these examples)? > I'd say !glide after each consonant, same as !h. If we add it in the consonant rule, it would still allow a glide after a consonantal syllable, I think. This however would mean that CG is disallowed in all cmevla, and some traditional cmevla like "nitcion" become illegal. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --001a11345d766b1375050a326ee7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Alex Burka <aburka@seas.upenn.edu= > wrote:
By the way, if I modify the "onset" rule from

onset <- h / consonant? glide / initial

to

<= span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap"> onset <- h / glide / initial=

This cuts out {saskrkuarka}, but {bangrblg= aria} is saved by being parsed as {ban,gr,bl,GAR,ia} (whereas with the curr= ent PEG it parses as {ban,gr,bl,GA,ria}).

Is this = how we would do it, if we end up prohibiting some or all CgV, or would it b= e more restrictive, like adding "!glide" at the end of the "= consonant" rule (which does kill both of these examples)?

I'd say !glide after each consonant, same as = !h. If we add it in the consonant rule, it would still allow a glide after = a consonantal syllable, I think. This however would mean that CG is disallo= wed in all cmevla, and some traditional cmevla like "nitcion" bec= ome illegal.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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