Received: from mail-la0-f57.google.com ([209.85.215.57]:64939) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Y0Jiu-0001va-G9; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 16:41:18 -0800 Received: by mail-la0-f57.google.com with SMTP id gf13sf892392lab.2 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 16:41:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=d2gMyFVTk8rlDLMSyjfJvitkgkgcmdGgzlLrYT4/oKY=; b=YcU/MpRnvplH7apsKK+9cdRemm58fLds5xlvHFjD4Fvj4SBALtW8P9tPUOHE1S4Z1t XwoTnr2OL5nSYgda5UPFaLVB1ZSm2b5Zk+UlrjpBFP4vNYhL6TYMKj4Yvxei/GkfxG3W FhCkbFA2a2VZjIblQonjInQHLL+t7WUM07ObLOUKjvRmPUbabGk1TZlsS9aw4XLVaVfn 5CPJULZkOd5lbjsRfuWPa3xe9FWAZxWX7svLZbOptrMnEQVvQyUpNZCBJWnCr4kDQ0xz SAi2St7LVkfEy2XZ6sZhwbHGW9xbkknfTt/RtVDCtvfXS8v/izkY3ZHdU83NGZomYaz4 J0FQ== X-Received: by 10.152.42.173 with SMTP id p13mr28lal.6.1418604069082; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 16:41:09 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.36.100 with SMTP id p4ls286144laj.24.gmail; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 16:41:08 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.112.169.101 with SMTP id ad5mr4254908lbc.1.1418604068200; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 16:41:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-la0-x22c.google.com (mail-la0-x22c.google.com. [2a00:1450:4010:c03::22c]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id mu9si734545lbc.0.2014.12.14.16.41.08 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 14 Dec 2014 16:41:08 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of and.rosta@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::22c as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c03::22c; Received: by mail-la0-f44.google.com with SMTP id gd6so8616332lab.31 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 16:41:08 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.45.65 with SMTP id k1mr4712119lam.14.1418604068108; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 16:41:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.70.212 with HTTP; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 16:41:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.70.212 with HTTP; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 16:41:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <548AC3CB.7090403@gmx.de> <580B9AB84B34485AB4139B921C46CF42@gmail.com> <3ED463A548E74A53BD8F2ECEF0C620F8@gmail.com> <14FDADF47D7841A39D612894E81CC89B@gmail.com> <20141214025736.GB19927@mercury.ccil.org> <20141214190350.GD29313@mercury.ccil.org> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 00:41:07 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] official cmavo form From: And Rosta To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c1b7ae8e806a050a367fb7 X-Original-Sender: and.rosta@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of and.rosta@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::22c as permitted sender) smtp.mail=and.rosta@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 3648 --001a11c1b7ae8e806a050a367fb7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 15 Dec 2014 00:06, "Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas" wrote: > > > > On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 8:18 PM, And Rosta wrote: >> >> On 14 Dec 2014 19:03, "John Cowan" wrote: >> > >> > As arbitrary prohibitions go, this is nothing compared to the limitations >> > on initial CCs. >> >> If I were actually casting my vote, instead of proxying it to xorxes on the grounds of his sounder judgement, I'd vote to liberalize those initial clusters too. (And it would even not invalidate any prior usage.) > > Depending on which limitations we're talking about, it would invalidate some usage. For example, if "ks" was to become a valid initial, then the fu'ivla "leksiko" would no longer be a valid fu'ivla, it would become "le ksiko". Hmm. I suppose that to preserve validity of prior usage, you'd have to say that a word can't start with /ks/ but can start with /.ks/. --And. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= BPFK" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --001a11c1b7ae8e806a050a367fb7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On 15 Dec 2014 00:06, "Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas" <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 8:18 PM, And Rosta <and.rosta@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On 14 Dec 2014 19:03, "John Cowan" <cowan@mercury.ccil.org> wrote:
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>> > As arbitrary prohibitions go, this is nothing compared to the= limitations
>> > on initial CCs.
>>
>> If I were actually casting my vote, instead of proxying it to xorx= es on the grounds of his sounder judgement, I'd vote to liberalize thos= e initial clusters too. (And it would even not invalidate any prior usage.)=
>
> Depending on which limitations we're talking about, it would inval= idate some usage. For example, if "ks" was to become a valid init= ial, then the fu'ivla "leksiko" would no longer be a valid fu= 'ivla, it would become "le ksiko".

Hmm. I suppose that to preserve validity of prior usage, you= 'd have to say that a word can't start with /ks/ but can start with= /.ks/.

--And.

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