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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 19:45:54 -0300
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On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 7:03 PM, Alex Burka <aburka@seas.upenn.edu> wrote:
>
> I also thought that glides can't be pronounced disyllabically, because
> then our stress rules would be inconsistent (if you pronounce {brodaiare}
> as {bro,da,i,a,re} and stress the /i/ then wouldn't it fall apart?).
>

The stress should be on the penultimate nucleus, in this case "a".
Pronouncing the glide as if it were a separate syllable doesn't break
anything (much like pronouncing "na" as if it were two syllables "n,a")
although it does make it more likely that it could be confused with
something else.


> So I don't know exactly what you mean by {i,avla} and {mi,avla} here. Am I
> hopelessly confused?
>

I was addressing your proposal to forbid ia in fu'ivla/ma'ovla except
word-initially, because i,a and i'a are too close. I don't understand why
they are more distinct word-initially than in other parts of the word.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 7:03 PM, Alex Burka <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:aburka@seas.upenn.edu" target=3D"_blank">aburka@seas.upenn.edu=
</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0=
 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                <div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:13px">I also =
thought that glides can&#39;t be pronounced disyllabically, because then ou=
r stress rules would be inconsistent (if you pronounce {brodaiare} as {bro,=
da,i,a,re} and stress the /i/ then wouldn&#39;t it fall apart?). </div></bl=
ockquote><div><br></div><div>The stress should be on the penultimate nucleu=
s, in this case &quot;a&quot;.=C2=A0 Pronouncing the glide as if it were a =
separate syllable doesn&#39;t break anything (much like pronouncing &quot;n=
a&quot; as if it were two syllables &quot;n,a&quot;) although it does make =
it more likely that it could be confused with something else.</div><div>=C2=
=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;borde=
r-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica=
;font-size:13px">So I don&#39;t know exactly what you mean by {i,avla} and =
{mi,avla} here. Am I hopelessly confused?<br></div></blockquote><div><br></=
div><div>I was addressing your proposal to forbid ia in fu&#39;ivla/ma&#39;=
ovla except word-initially, because i,a and i&#39;a are too close. I don=
9;t understand why they are more distinct word-initially than in other part=
s of the word.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes</div=
><div>=C2=A0</div></div></div></div>

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