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I just realized you were probably using square brackets for IPA. So if I un=
derstand correctly (relying on a Wikipedia chart here) [tuwitsku] would be =
{tu uitsku}, gliding from the [u] to the [i], and [tu=CA=94itsku] is {tu .i=
tsku} with a pause/glottal stop in between. As I understand it Lojban is of=
 the opinion that [tuitsku] is indistinguishable from [tuwitsku].

However, the debated ?{tuitsku} is pronounced [twitsku].

mu'o mi'e la durkavore =20


On Friday, December 12, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Alex Burka wrote:

> I'm confused. {tuuitsku} breaks up into {tu uitsku}, no matter what we do=
, but if CgV is disallowed then ?{tuitsku} would be invalid. The separated =
words would be {tu .itsku} with the required pause. =20
> =20
> I apologize in advance if I'm still talking past you and answering a diff=
erent question that what you asked.
> =20
> mu'o mi'e la durkavore =20
> =20
> On Friday, December 12, 2014 at 2:16 PM, And Rosta wrote:
> =20
> > I meant what Lojban word(s). =20
> > If [tuisku] is something other than {tuisku}, e.g. {tu uisku}, then {tu=
isku} should be illicit; otherwise it should be licit.
> > --And.
> > On 12 Dec 2014 18:47, "Alex Burka" <aburka@seas.upenn.edu (mailto:aburk=
a@seas.upenn.edu)> wrote:
> > > It's been used for "to tweet", as in on Twitter. =20
> > > =20
> > > On Friday, December 12, 2014 at 1:03 PM, And Rosta wrote:
> > > =20
> > > > =20
> > > > On 12 Dec 2014 10:30, "selpa'i" <seladwa@gmx.de (mailto:seladwa@gmx=
.de)> wrote:
> > > > > having to say {tu'itsku} for {tuitsku} hurts a bit, =20
> > > > What word(s) would phonetic [tuitsku] be? =20
> > > > --And.
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                <div>
                    I just realized you were probably using square brackets=
 for IPA. So if I understand correctly (relying on a Wikipedia chart here) =
[tuwitsku] would be {tu uitsku}, gliding from the [u] to the [i], and [tu=
=CA=94itsku] is {tu .itsku} with a pause/glottal stop in between. As I unde=
rstand it Lojban is of the opinion that [tuitsku] is indistinguishable from=
 [tuwitsku].</div><div><br></div><div>However, the debated ?{tuitsku} is pr=
onounced [twitsku].</div><div><br></div><div>mu'o mi'e la durkavore</div>
                <div></div>
                =20
                <p style=3D"color: #A0A0A8;">On Friday, December 12, 2014 a=
t 2:20 PM, Alex Burka wrote:</p>
                <blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"border-left-style:solid;=
border-width:1px;margin-left:0px;padding-left:10px;">
                    <span><div><div>
                <div>
                    I'm confused. {tuuitsku} breaks up into {tu uitsku}, no=
 matter what we do, but if CgV is disallowed then ?{tuitsku} would be inval=
id. The separated words would be {tu .itsku} with the required pause.
                </div><div><br></div><div>I apologize in advance if I'm sti=
ll talking past you and answering a different question that what you asked.=
</div><div><br></div><div>mu'o mi'e la durkavore</div>
                =20
                 =20
                <p style=3D"color: #A0A0A8;">On Friday, December 12, 2014 a=
t 2:16 PM, And Rosta wrote:</p><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>
                    <span><div><div><p dir=3D"ltr">I meant what Lojban word=
(s). </p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">If [tuisku] is something other than {tuisku}, e.g. {tu uisku=
}, then {tuisku} should be illicit; otherwise it should be licit.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">--And.</p>
<div>On 12 Dec 2014 18:47, "Alex Burka" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:aburka@seas.u=
penn.edu">aburka@seas.upenn.edu</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite"><div>
                <div>
                    It's been used for "to tweet", as in on Twitter.
                </div>
                 =20
                  =20
                <p style=3D"color:#a0a0a8">On Friday, December 12, 2014 at =
1:03 PM, And Rosta wrote:</p><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>
                    <span><div><div><p dir=3D"ltr"><br>
On 12 Dec 2014 10:30, "selpa'i" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:seladwa@gmx.de" targe=
t=3D"_blank">seladwa@gmx.de</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; having to say {tu'itsku} for {tuitsku} hurts a bit, </p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">What word(s) would phonetic [tuitsku] be? </p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">--And.</p>

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