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On 14 Dec 2014 02:57, "John Cowan" <cowan@mercury.ccil.org> wrote:
>
> And Rosta scripsit:
> > That is, it's a bad idea for
> > [tuitsku] to be ambiguous between /tu witsku/ and /twitsku/, and that
> > ambiguity should be remedied and nullified by forbidding one of them.
>
> The current prescription forbids both of them:  "tuitsku" has the illicit
> CgV form, and "tu uitsku" has be [tu?witsku].  I'm good with this.
> Lojban's phonotactics are as arbitrary as every other feature of the
> language, and I see no need to liberalize them.

Is "tuuitsku" (one word) also illicit? If not, then [tuitsku] is "tuuitsku"
(and *tuitsku is rightly illicit, if putatively distinct from "tuuitsku").
Otherwise, the failure of [tuitsku] to realize any word constitutes an
arbitrary prohibition, and it is in the nature of arbitrary prohibitions
that there is a need to liberalize them. (Not necessarily an irresistible
need: conservatism may resist it, due to feeling that the cost of change
outweighs the benefit of liberalization.)

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<p dir=3D"ltr"><br>
On 14 Dec 2014 02:57, &quot;John Cowan&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cowan@me=
rcury.ccil.org">cowan@mercury.ccil.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; And Rosta scripsit:<br>
&gt; &gt; That is, it&#39;s a bad idea for<br>
&gt; &gt; [tuitsku] to be ambiguous between /tu witsku/ and /twitsku/, and =
that<br>
&gt; &gt; ambiguity should be remedied and nullified by forbidding one of t=
hem.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The current prescription forbids both of them:=C2=A0 &quot;tuitsku&quo=
t; has the illicit<br>
&gt; CgV form, and &quot;tu uitsku&quot; has be [tu?witsku].=C2=A0 I&#39;m =
good with this.<br>
&gt; Lojban&#39;s phonotactics are as arbitrary as every other feature of t=
he<br>
&gt; language, and I see no need to liberalize them.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Is &quot;tuuitsku&quot; (one word) also illicit? If not, the=
n [tuitsku] is &quot;tuuitsku&quot; (and *tuitsku is rightly illicit, if pu=
tatively distinct from &quot;tuuitsku&quot;). Otherwise, the failure of [tu=
itsku] to realize any word constitutes an arbitrary prohibition, and it is =
in the nature of arbitrary prohibitions that there is a need to liberalize =
them. (Not necessarily an irresistible need: conservatism may resist it, du=
e to feeling that the cost of change outweighs the benefit of liberalizatio=
n.)</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">--And.</p>

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